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greetings

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salutations and welcome back

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it has been a while since we've been

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back and for that i apologize

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a lot of different projects and

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especially the cabin project

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and uh you know sometimes the time

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to check in even is not even really

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there

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um today i thought we would take a

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detour of sorts

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and talk about something a little

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different from our usual topics and that

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is uh social media

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its effects on us is it a good thing

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is it a bad thing or is it simply a tool

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and like many tools whether it's good or

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bad

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will be determined by how you use that

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you know i think the tool analogy is

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uh for example

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if i have an axe i can chop wood with

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that axe and heat my home

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it's a tool that can benefit myself

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and my family if i

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needed money i could chop wood for

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others so could also be

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a tool for business uh but that same

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tool

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and axe i could take over to my

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neighbor's house and chop his head off

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i'm a big believer that many things are

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tools and it's how we use the tools

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that really determine their worth or

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whether they're good or bad

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and uh like that analogy i think social

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media is a tool

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throughout my life uh social media from

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its very beginnings

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my space i remember being really big to

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promote that

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rock band i was in um

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and now i promote all of my things

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whatever i'm working on i sort of

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promote on social media on twitter

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on facebook uh i'm really a slacker on

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instagram i'm just gonna take the link

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down

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but i recently got to see this social

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dilemma uh

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documentary it's on netflix if you

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haven't seen it yet

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boy i highly recommend that you that you

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gives me a pass

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to veg because i justify it by saying

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well but i'm learning

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something you know like this is a

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documentary about the planet mars and

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i'm going to learn all about the planet

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more so i'm not really just

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vegging out i try to listen intently and

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learn something but

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i love documentaries you get something

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out of them i really think that it's

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you're better off watching documentaries

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all the time than

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fiction most of the time

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but i do i like fiction i spend i'd say

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70 percent of my time if i'm watching

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something as documentary

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and maybe 30 percent i don't really have

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time to watch much of anything but when

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i do that's about the ratio that i try

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i like documentaries i feel like you get

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some knowledge

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you get something out of them but you

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can get things out of fiction too like

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being entertained you know good comedy

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you laugh your ass off there's value in

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generally i just find more in

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documentaries i like to learn things so

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social dilemma documentary came out on

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and a friend of mine who works in

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silicon valley who i haven't spoken to

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quite some time called me and asked me

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if i'd seen it yet and i

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this is a few weeks ago hadn't even

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heard of it so i said no i'll check it

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he insisted he said you've got to watch

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and i got to say that even having a lot

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that work in the computer industry and

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a lot of things in this documentary were

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incredibly shocking to me

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uh for those that don't know i'm just

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wikipedia about this movie and imdb

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the social dilemma is the 2020 american

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docu-drama directed by jeff

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werlowski and written by

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orlowski davis crumby and vicky

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curtis the film explores the rise of

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social media and the damage it has

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caused to society focusing on its

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through surveillance capitalism and

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rates and its role in spreading

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the film features interviews with former

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tell the story of a teenager social

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media addiction yeah so they have some

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sort of recreation in this too which i

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think was really well done

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and explained very well about just how

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the social media companies are able to

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keep you engaged to push your buttons to

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computer science but even i was

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surprised at the level that these

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it made me think of that old saying like

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just because you can do something

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my sort of analysis of the way these

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they're really really trying to

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uh one second

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i think this is a very important film i

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that you uh watch this i'm not being

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compensated by uh

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i'm sure not being compensated by

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anybody related to the film or by

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uh or by stream yard and even though

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this is a film trailer which i think is

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okay to share we're still going to cite

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to educate the public okay

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let's share this friends i just want to

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give you a sense of what the film more

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of a sense of what the film is about

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these aren't some whack jobs that don't

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conspiracy theories these are hot former

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this stuff which is a great thing for

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really worked at that place you know

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you fooligy and all those fake insiders

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this was a refreshing change real

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getting in my psyche before you you know

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i've never saw something on facebook and

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they can send me a check but i thought

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that this film was important enough

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that as a public service even i would

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my thoughts on it i uh like i said i

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science but even i was shocked that some

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of the things that are revealed in this

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how long you look at it and there's a

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that facebook knows when you're looking

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pictures of an old girlfriend that's

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how would they know that but i guess

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through collecting all the data they

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would right

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so uh you know there was a time

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when the internet was still young when i

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big proponent of internet privacy

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and that is that no one besides me

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should be able to know what i'm looking

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at on the internet or what i'm

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downloading on the internet or what

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whatever

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i guess my principles eroded somewhat

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these services offer an enticing reward

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for their use

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for me in my space it was just keeping

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knowing that they tracked things or

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trying to control everything i was not a

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supporter of google early on at all and

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i'd probably say i'm still not much of a

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i think they have to way too much power

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but again the convenience of having it

289
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that email

290
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and uh i caved again

291
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and then facebook well all my friends

292
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from my space

293
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are leaving my space in droves for this

294
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new thing

295
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called facebook do i really want to sign

296
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up for something new

297
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not really and i try to hold on to

298
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myspace i was not an early facebook

299
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adopter but eventually yeah

300
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i have to say that facebook was good for

301
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reconnecting with old friends that you

302
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have not seen in a long time and like

303
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you know even old friends from like high

304
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school

305
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there were a few people that found me uh

306
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on facebook or i found them and

307
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and it was fun to like catch up with

308
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them and see what they've been up to

309
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so yeah there was some benefit for me

310
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for facebook

311
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for some period but i

312
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just lately i don't really and i guess

313
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keeping up with friends and family right

314
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but it's almost like we you have to have

315
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a facebook because

316
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you're you know like my wife will say to

317
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me

318
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i put uh i took a bunch of pictures of

319
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the kids today and i put them on

320
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facebook so of course i need facebook to

321
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look at them

322
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or whatever relative may tell you that

323
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they put pictures up or that they you

324
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know

325
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well i don't even have to tell you but

326
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you know what i mean like you kind of

327
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need it just to keep up with friends and

328
00:15:22,870 --> 00:15:19,519
family see what people are up to

329
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what people are doing but the level of

330
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manipulation

331
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that these companies are using and the

332
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psychology they're using against us

333
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all these ai algorithms against you

334
00:15:41,030 --> 00:15:37,680
uh are you going to be

335
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are you going to win and somehow not be

336
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manipulated by

337
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all these advanced algorithms that keep

338
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learning about you through your

339
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searches through your

340
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online purchases through your email

341
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conversations through your private

342
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messages

343
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they're looking at all of this stuff

344
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and i also found it interesting that

345
00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:06,000
google has different answers for people

346
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based on their

347
00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:09,680
own google profile or information that

348
00:16:16,230 --> 00:16:15,590
that's a little scary why can't we just

349
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get

350
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search for something like climate change

351
00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:25,600
people just get different answers that's

352
00:16:33,749 --> 00:16:28,720
a little scary and strange

353
00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:33,759
i uh not a big user of google search

354
00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:38,240
i prefer others and

355
00:16:41,670 --> 00:16:40,240
i prefer others that don't track what

356
00:16:45,910 --> 00:16:41,680
you're searching

357
00:16:51,189 --> 00:16:47,509
and if you look for those alternatives

358
00:16:53,749 --> 00:16:51,199
there they are out there

359
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i guess uh there's one other thing that

360
00:16:58,069 --> 00:16:55,600
i wanted to share which is just a few

361
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questions and an explanation from this

362
00:17:01,269 --> 00:16:59,759
gentleman who was also in the film

363
00:17:03,110 --> 00:17:01,279
but this is from a separate interview he

364
00:17:05,909 --> 00:17:03,120
did on channel 4 british news

365
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a public television station uh and

366
00:17:10,309 --> 00:17:06,880
that's jaron

367
00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:10,319
lanier who is sort of a activist

368
00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:17,350
he is sort of a technology activist

369
00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:20,079
who besides social media warns about the

370
00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:21,360
dangers of a lot of

371
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technological things the dangers of

372
00:17:31,190 --> 00:17:27,760
ai is one of the things i heard him

373
00:17:33,750 --> 00:17:31,200
talk about but

374
00:17:34,950 --> 00:17:33,760
we're going to cite fair use and we're

375
00:17:36,950 --> 00:17:34,960
going to share this

376
00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:36,960
portions of this interview and comment

377
00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:38,240
and and

378
00:17:44,230 --> 00:17:40,240
discuss along the way we're educating

379
00:17:50,630 --> 00:17:46,150
and again this is jared lanier who's

380
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okay this is an excellent question asked

381
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by the

382
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interviewer is there a principal reason

383
00:18:01,270 --> 00:18:00,160
why i should delete my social media and

384
00:18:04,789 --> 00:18:01,280
if so what is it

385
00:18:06,870 --> 00:18:04,799
um there are two

386
00:18:09,510 --> 00:18:06,880
one of them is for your own good and the

387
00:18:12,470 --> 00:18:09,520
other is for society is good

388
00:18:12,950 --> 00:18:12,480
for your own good it's because you're

389
00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:12,960
being

390
00:18:16,870 --> 00:18:15,440
subtly manipulated by algorithms that

391
00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:16,880
are watching everything you do

392
00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:18,160
constantly

393
00:18:23,590 --> 00:18:21,760
and then sending you changes in your

394
00:18:25,190 --> 00:18:23,600
media feed in your diet that are

395
00:18:27,590 --> 00:18:25,200
calculated

396
00:18:30,070 --> 00:18:27,600
to adjust you slightly to the liking of

397
00:18:33,909 --> 00:18:30,080
some unseen advertiser

398
00:18:36,070 --> 00:18:33,919
and that's a little scary uh

399
00:18:37,669 --> 00:18:36,080
literally the fact that everything you

400
00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:37,679
do is being tracked and

401
00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:41,200
uh and then used to try to manipulate

402
00:18:45,110 --> 00:18:43,200
you is a scary thing

403
00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:45,120
and so if you get off that you can have

404
00:18:50,470 --> 00:18:47,120
a chance to experience

405
00:18:52,789 --> 00:18:50,480
a clear view of yourself in your life

406
00:18:54,830 --> 00:18:52,799
but then the reason for society might be

407
00:18:57,750 --> 00:18:54,840
even more important

408
00:18:59,669 --> 00:18:57,760
society has been gradually darkened

409
00:19:01,590 --> 00:18:59,679
by this scheme in which everyone is

410
00:19:04,789 --> 00:19:01,600
under surveillance all the time

411
00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:04,799
and everyone is under this mild version

412
00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:07,760
of behavior modification all the time

413
00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:09,440
it's a mild version

414
00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:13,120
of behavior modification i suppose it is

415
00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:15,360
not it's subtle right what they're

416
00:19:18,150 --> 00:19:16,720
trying to do to us what they're

417
00:19:21,750 --> 00:19:18,160
attempting to do to us

418
00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:21,760
it's made people jittery and cranky

419
00:19:25,669 --> 00:19:24,640
it's made teams especially depressed

420
00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:25,679
which can be quite

421
00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:28,640
severe but it's made our politics kind

422
00:19:31,430 --> 00:19:28,880
of

423
00:19:33,510 --> 00:19:31,440
unreal and strange where we're not sure

424
00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:33,520
if elections are real anymore

425
00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:35,760
we're not sure how much the russians

426
00:19:39,029 --> 00:19:37,120
affected brexit

427
00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:39,039
we do know that it was a crankier affair

428
00:19:42,470 --> 00:19:40,880
than it might have been otherwise

429
00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:42,480
you say it's bad for me as an individual

430
00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:44,400
is it bad for me because i'm addicted

431
00:19:49,270 --> 00:19:47,760
if i become chemically hooked yeah and

432
00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:49,280
this is something that i struggle with

433
00:19:54,470 --> 00:19:51,600
myself

434
00:19:57,909 --> 00:19:54,480
i noticed something strange well it's

435
00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:01,510
um in the early summer

436
00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:05,200
this year we got internet at the cabin

437
00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:08,240
and before we got internet at the cabin

438
00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:10,880
i got a lot more work done and that's

439
00:20:14,870 --> 00:20:12,000
all i can say

440
00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:14,880
like i could go and go outside and do

441
00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:15,200
all

442
00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:20,400
this stuff that i have to do today

443
00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:22,720
or i can waste some time on the internet

444
00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:24,240
and procrastinate a lot

445
00:20:27,909 --> 00:20:26,000
and i can procrastinate two or three

446
00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:27,919
hours away sometimes before i get out

447
00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:28,799
there and do what i'm

448
00:20:34,549 --> 00:20:32,000
supposed to be doing additionally i've

449
00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:34,559
noticed that

450
00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:37,760
i check in a lot more right when there's

451
00:20:45,909 --> 00:20:43,750
i was totally disconnected except for my

452
00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:45,919
phone and sometimes that didn't even

453
00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:47,520
work

454
00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:49,200
but generally i would just check to make

455
00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:51,039
sure i didn't have any texts or messages

456
00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:52,720
from my wife

457
00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:55,760
you know like once or twice a day

458
00:21:01,990 --> 00:20:58,880
and that would be it for my

459
00:21:04,789 --> 00:21:02,000
for my online time i suppose

460
00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:04,799
or phone time right but once the

461
00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:10,549
i was checking i don't know 10 times a

462
00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:11,039
day

463
00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:12,400
you know let me see if i got any

464
00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:13,760
facebook messages let me see if i got

465
00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:15,760
any twitter messages

466
00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:17,440
let me see if there's any comments on my

467
00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:20,240
youtube videos that i should reply to

468
00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:23,120
and this stuff just sort of drains away

469
00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:25,840
at your time

470
00:21:28,870 --> 00:21:27,520
do i regret getting internet at the

471
00:21:31,510 --> 00:21:28,880
cabin

472
00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:31,520
i don't know i'm still on the fence what

473
00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:31,919
i

474
00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:48,640
there by myself and there's no

475
00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:50,960
kid noise or anybody stopping me i can

476
00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:53,280
stream whenever i want to

477
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:54,960
but the downside of course is that i'm

478
00:21:58,149 --> 00:21:56,480
wasting time there

479
00:22:02,310 --> 00:21:58,159
on the internet that could be better

480
00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:05,750
you have uh the founders

481
00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:07,679
of the great silicon valley spying

482
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:09,600
empires like facebook have publicly

483
00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:10,960
declared that

484
00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:13,919
they intentionally included addictive

485
00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:14,720
schemes

486
00:22:17,830 --> 00:22:17,200
in in their designs yes so i'm sorry the

487
00:22:21,029 --> 00:22:17,840
reporter

488
00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:21,039
asked him if uh you know it's addictive

489
00:22:25,029 --> 00:22:22,880
and i believe that social media is

490
00:22:27,909 --> 00:22:25,039
absolutely addictive

491
00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:27,919
now we have to say this is what i would

492
00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:28,960
call

493
00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:31,919
almost a stealthy addiction it's it's a

494
00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:33,600
statistical addiction

495
00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:37,039
what it says is we will get the broad

496
00:22:42,070 --> 00:22:39,600
population to use the services a lot

497
00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:42,080
will get them hooked through a scheme of

498
00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:44,480
rewards and punishment

499
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:46,400
and the the the rewards are when you're

500
00:22:50,549 --> 00:22:48,320
retweeted the punishment is when you're

501
00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:50,559
treated badly by others online

502
00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:53,520
and then within that will very gradually

503
00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:54,559
start

504
00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:57,039
to leverage that to change them so it's

505
00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:58,480
just it's this very

506
00:23:01,990 --> 00:23:00,960
kind of stealthy manipulation of the

507
00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:02,000
population

508
00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:04,320
so it's not as dramatic as a heroin

509
00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:05,760
addict or a gambling addict

510
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:09,120
but it is the same principle i i

511
00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:11,600
i almost would disagree with him because

512
00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:12,799
if you've ever

513
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:15,440
known somebody that was really really

514
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:16,159
really

515
00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:18,799
addicted to their phone i think that's

516
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:19,840
just as bad as

517
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:22,320
it's just as detrimental maybe as a drug

518
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:23,039
addiction

519
00:23:30,230 --> 00:23:26,720
but or just as powerful to some people

520
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:30,240
some people are naturally more i suppose

521
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:30,720
uh

522
00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:32,799
just have more addictive personalities i

523
00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:34,400
used to know a friend

524
00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:37,919
that like never put it down he never put

525
00:23:40,149 --> 00:23:39,679
the phone down didn't matter what you're

526
00:23:42,149 --> 00:23:40,159
doing

527
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:42,159
didn't matter where you were he could be

528
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:43,760
at a football game

529
00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:46,559
that he paid you know like 75 bucks for

530
00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:48,320
a ticket to go to the football game and

531
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:50,480
he's staring at his phone you know back

532
00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:51,840
and forth between the football game and

533
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:53,200
his phone

534
00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:55,279
uh he could be at a concert that he paid

535
00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:57,120
good money for same thing

536
00:24:01,029 --> 00:23:59,120
you know and it just gets annoying being

537
00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:01,039
around somebody like that

538
00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:03,360
but who's doing the manipulating i mean

539
00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:05,200
there isn't some master

540
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:06,880
sort of wizard of oz sitting behind a

541
00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:08,880
screen well this is the peculiarity of

542
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:10,159
the situation

543
00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:11,919
the people who run the tech companies

544
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,760
like google and facebook are not doing

545
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:15,120
the manipulating they're doing the

546
00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:16,480
addicting

547
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:18,559
but the manipulating which rides on the

548
00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:19,919
back of the addicting

549
00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:23,360
is the paying customer of such a company

550
00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:25,679
so uh and and many of those customers

551
00:24:30,149 --> 00:24:27,760
are not at all bad influences they

552
00:24:31,750 --> 00:24:30,159
yeah and uh this is sort of the defense

553
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:31,760
of these companies well we're not

554
00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:33,440
manipulating people we're just selling

555
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:34,720
advertising

556
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:36,159
but i agree that this form of

557
00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:38,159
advertising is not like

558
00:24:42,149 --> 00:24:41,200
television ads or billboards it's much

559
00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:42,159
more

560
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:52,720
and we've all had that experience where

561
00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:54,559
like we googled

562
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:57,679
um you know let's say one time i was

563
00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:58,320
googling

564
00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:00,799
kayaks looking at maybe a kayak or a

565
00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:02,080
canoe for the

566
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:05,360
cabin and for the next month all i saw

567
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:07,679
on the internet were ads for kayaks and

568
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:08,400
canoes

569
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:11,120
you know might simply be trying to

570
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:13,520
promote their cars or their perfumes or

571
00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:14,480
whatever

572
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:17,200
and indeed i have sympathy for them

573
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:18,799
because they're concerned that if they

574
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:20,480
don't put money into the system nobody

575
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:21,440
will know about them

576
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:22,799
how is it different to just television

577
00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:24,720
advertising or billboard advertising

578
00:25:28,870 --> 00:25:26,880
or anything else the difference is that

579
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,880
the constant feedback loop

580
00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:30,720
so when you watch the television the

581
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:32,159
television isn't watching you

582
00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:34,000
when you see the billboard the billboard

583
00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:35,279
isn't seeing you

584
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:37,120
and vast numbers of people see the same

585
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:38,880
thing on television and see the same

586
00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:39,760
billboard

587
00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:42,159
when you use these new designs social

588
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:42,799
media

589
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:46,480
search youtube when you see these things

590
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:48,320
you're being observed constantly and

591
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:50,080
algorithms are taking that information

592
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:52,000
and changing what you see next

593
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:53,600
and they're searching and searching and

594
00:25:57,430 --> 00:25:55,679
searching and they're just blind robots

595
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:57,440
there's no evil genius here until they

596
00:26:00,789 --> 00:25:58,320
find

597
00:26:02,549 --> 00:26:00,799
those patterns those those little tricks

598
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:02,559
that get you and make you change your

599
00:26:07,669 --> 00:26:03,919
behavior

600
00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:07,679
yeah so this is definitely not the same

601
00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:10,880
form of advertising as the old days you

602
00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:13,760
know magazine print ads and newspapers

603
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:16,640
uh billboards television ads we'd all

604
00:26:21,909 --> 00:26:16,960
see

605
00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:21,919
more targeted

606
00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:24,320
in terms of society i mean you you threw

607
00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:25,440
in this you know

608
00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:27,279
it's making people depressed but is

609
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:28,960
there any actual evidence

610
00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:31,760
for that yeah unfortunately there's a

611
00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:33,279
vast amount of evidence

612
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:34,960
there have been dozens of studies at

613
00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:37,840
this point including studies released by

614
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:39,279
facebook scientists

615
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:41,679
so this is this is something we can call

616
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:42,880
a consensus

617
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:44,480
and and when facebook releases such

618
00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:45,760
things they say oh but we do all these

619
00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:47,279
good things too that balance it but

620
00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:47,840
there's

621
00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:51,760
facebook scientists have to publicly

622
00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:52,320
admit

623
00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:55,440
that it causes depression and anxiety in

624
00:26:59,190 --> 00:26:56,480
many people

625
00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:59,200
the general acknowledgement that uh

626
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:00,480
depression

627
00:27:05,830 --> 00:27:03,840
correlates uh the scariest example is a

628
00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:05,840
correlation between rises in uh teen

629
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:06,960
suicide and their

630
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:08,960
and the rise in use of social media and

631
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:10,720
so yes unfortunately this is real but

632
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:13,120
are you sure you can blame it on

633
00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:14,960
social media is it not just those two

634
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:16,159
things may have happened at the same

635
00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:17,679
time for other reasons

636
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:19,520
well here's a distinction we have to

637
00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:20,960
make it's very similar

638
00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:23,840
to the problem of global climate we say

639
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:25,679
statistically over the whole population

640
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:27,760
yes the correlation is real

641
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:29,520
in any particular person of course we

642
00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:30,880
can't just as we can't

643
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:32,720
blame any particular storm on global

644
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:34,480
warming but it's causality isn't it

645
00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:37,840
it yeah i mean uh it is causality

646
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:39,760
and it's this is something that's very

647
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:40,960
well demonstrated

648
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:44,240
yeah and the most famous link is between

649
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:47,520
the rates of teenage suicide or suicide

650
00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:48,640
attempts

651
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:51,679
and the rise of social social media

652
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:55,039
we can see statistical evidence that

653
00:27:59,269 --> 00:27:57,039
the more people started using social

654
00:28:02,710 --> 00:27:59,279
media the higher the rates of

655
00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:02,720
suicides or attempted suicides against

656
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:06,320
or suicides and attempted suicides

657
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:10,240
in young pre-teens and teens rose

658
00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:14,159
dramatically dramatically so

659
00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:16,159
when the company's own scientists are

660
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:18,399
publishing on this topic and come to the

661
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,159
same agreement i think it's time to say

662
00:28:26,789 --> 00:28:22,320
this is real

663
00:28:30,149 --> 00:28:26,799
why have you sort of turned on your own

664
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:30,159
kind i love silicon valley and i do not

665
00:28:33,430 --> 00:28:31,840
at all feel that i've turned on my own

666
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:33,440
kind and just to be clear i'm very much

667
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:35,120
a part of this i i've sold a company to

668
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:35,679
google

669
00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:38,000
i'm not in any sense an outsider i

670
00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:38,880
believe that

671
00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:41,760
yeah he's definitely an insider um but

672
00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:43,360
maybe

673
00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:47,360
he was an insider that has a conscience

674
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:50,480
and you know good for him for that

675
00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:52,240
because there's an awful lot of money to

676
00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:53,600
be made

677
00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:56,559
he could just as easily be getting in on

678
00:29:01,350 --> 00:28:57,600
a silicon

679
00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:01,360
social media gold mines still but

680
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:04,399
he kind of uh lucked out uh

681
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:06,799
and made a lot of money sold his company

682
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:08,240
to google eventually

683
00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:10,720
and i think that he's got [\h__\h] you money

684
00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:11,440
right

685
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:14,399
isn't it great i this is a goal of my

686
00:29:18,710 --> 00:29:15,360
life

687
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:18,720
money

688
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:22,720
say whatever the [\h__\h] you want

689
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:26,159
to do whatever you want and not be

690
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:32,389
financial or moral obligation to shut

691
00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:33,360
the [\h__\h] up

692
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:36,559
about anything you know i've got to love

693
00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:38,080
people with [\h__\h] you money

694
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:39,840
people that have [\h__\h] you money are some

695
00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:41,360
of my favorite people

696
00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:43,919
and uh this jared lanier is one of those

697
00:29:48,149 --> 00:29:45,440
people with [\h__\h] money

698
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:48,159
uh and god bless them so what we're

699
00:29:56,549 --> 00:29:54,789
business interests are a part of society

700
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:56,559
if they destroy society they destroy

701
00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:57,760
themselves

702
00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:00,559
i believe it's very clear that we could

703
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:02,240
offer all of the good things and there

704
00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:03,520
are many many good things

705
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:05,600
in these services and social media in

706
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:06,559
particular

707
00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:08,559
i'm convinced we can offer them without

708
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:10,320
this manipulation engine in the

709
00:30:13,029 --> 00:30:11,200
background

710
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:13,039
there's a world of other business plans

711
00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:14,880
and i think they'd be better for us

712
00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:16,960
so i i i don't and this brings an

713
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:18,880
interesting thought

714
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:22,480
i uh not long ago got

715
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:25,200
a demo software from a company that

716
00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:26,559
makes

717
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:28,799
software where you can basically create

718
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:30,640
your own social media network like

719
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:31,679
facebook and

720
00:30:35,830 --> 00:30:33,360
it can look just like facebook or it

721
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:35,840
could look just like twitter

722
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:38,799
it's very easy to customize and this led

723
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:40,799
me to thinking what if somebody created

724
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:42,960
a social media network that didn't track

725
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:45,120
you

726
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:48,480
that maybe didn't have ads but had some

727
00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:50,720
other way to monetize itself so that it

728
00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:53,200
could make money and be self-sustainable

729
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:54,720
i think that's a good model and it's

730
00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:56,320
amazing to me that there's not more

731
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:57,120
competition

732
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:00,240
in new social media

733
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:03,120
you know there's facebook and twitter

734
00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:04,000
and instagram

735
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:06,960
right there's only a few big behemoth

736
00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:08,640
companies doing this

737
00:31:11,909 --> 00:31:10,320
and that's strange to me i don't think

738
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:11,919
we're being evil so much as we're being

739
00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:17,430
when it comes to facebook has facebook

740
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:19,840
made itself safe yet

741
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:22,320
in terms of data harvesting and scraping

742
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:23,440
and all that

743
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:26,080
well um i like that big huge sigh he

744
00:31:32,310 --> 00:31:27,120
just left out

745
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:32,320
you know facebook's fundamental design

746
00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:35,360
is one that is uh

747
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:37,120
it's it's the business model is to

748
00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:38,720
addict you and then

749
00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:40,799
offer a channel to you to third parties

750
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:42,720
to take advantage of that to change you

751
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:44,399
in some way without you realizing it's

752
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:45,360
happening i mean that's

753
00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:47,919
that's what it does so i don't think any

754
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:49,600
amount of tweaking

755
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:52,880
can uh fully heal it i think it needs

756
00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:54,960
yeah basically he's saying that there's

757
00:31:58,630 --> 00:31:56,720
no way to fix facebook you just gotta

758
00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:58,640
burn it down and start over

759
00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:01,200
and uh that's a sobering thought it's a

760
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:02,880
different business plan

761
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:05,679
i mean it's very hard to throw a barrage

762
00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:06,720
of rules

763
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:08,320
at somebody who's following certain

764
00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:09,679
incentives and then expect them to

765
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:11,120
really make a difference so when mark

766
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:13,120
zuckerberg says he's taking action and

767
00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:14,720
you know he regrets what's happened and

768
00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:15,919
all the rest of it

769
00:32:21,669 --> 00:32:17,840
you're saying he can't make his own

770
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:21,679
product a safer desirable product

771
00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:24,080
i believe that as long as his business

772
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:26,240
incentives are contrary to the interests

773
00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:28,000
of the people who use it who are

774
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:30,240
different from the customers

775
00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:32,880
then no matter how sincere he is and i

776
00:32:38,149 --> 00:32:34,720
believe he's sincere

777
00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:38,159
and no matter how clever he is he can't

778
00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:40,640
undo that problem he has to go back to

779
00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:42,320
the basics and change the nature of the

780
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:43,679
business plan

781
00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:45,360
you know the one problem that i have

782
00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:47,360
with some people like

783
00:32:51,909 --> 00:32:51,120
uh mr lanier or richard stallman

784
00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:51,919
especially

785
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:53,679
i'm a big fan of richard stallman who's

786
00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:56,080
sort of the one of the creators of

787
00:33:02,950 --> 00:33:00,240
free software is

788
00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:02,960
you know it's nice right to say like

789
00:33:05,669 --> 00:33:04,399
well you got to come up with a new

790
00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:05,679
business plan but

791
00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:08,799
selling ads is facebook's business plan

792
00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:10,320
and business model

793
00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:12,320
and some of these people wish for a

794
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:14,559
better world especially a better digital

795
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:16,559
world for all of us and that's a nice

796
00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:16,960
thing

797
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:19,279
but at the end of the day people do have

798
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:20,159
to make money

799
00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:22,159
so are we just going to ask all the

800
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:23,679
people in silicon valley

801
00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:27,360
to you know take a vow of poverty

802
00:33:31,830 --> 00:33:30,320
and do this for the benefit of humanity

803
00:33:34,230 --> 00:33:31,840
instead of for money

804
00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:34,240
what are they going to live off of

805
00:33:37,669 --> 00:33:35,840
that's one problem i have with this

806
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:37,679
would i like a better digital world

807
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:40,000
sure but people at the end of the day

808
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:42,240
have to make money so he's offering like

809
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:45,519
here's the solution without the solution

810
00:33:49,990 --> 00:33:47,200
and if he if he doesn't agree with that

811
00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:50,000
and says we're just going to carry on

812
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:53,519
how much how how important is security

813
00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:57,120
of that data uh and the inability to

814
00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:59,360
repeat what has happened with cambridge

815
00:34:02,070 --> 00:34:00,159
analystica

816
00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:02,080
and all that kind of sort of data

817
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:03,360
harvesting that went on

818
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:05,760
i don't believe that this is i don't

819
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:06,799
believe that what happened with

820
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:09,119
cambridge analytica is the worst of it

821
00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:11,919
uh the whole system is designed for this

822
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:13,919
like let's suppose that facebook reforms

823
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:15,599
itself so that the next cambridge

824
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:18,079
analytica can't get access to that data

825
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:19,919
they can still get access to the same

826
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:21,200
results

827
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:24,720
because the service facebook offers is

828
00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:27,760
exactly what campaign yeah i mean this

829
00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:28,240
is

830
00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:30,000
you know um they would just have to pay

831
00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:32,079
facebook together

832
00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:35,359
are are able to use facebook in ways

833
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:37,119
that facebook can't understand

834
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:39,599
because the way the service is designed

835
00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:42,000
is fundamentally to be manipulative so

836
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:45,280
i think the data protection idea is a

837
00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:46,720
sincere and good idea

838
00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:48,399
but it's certainly not adequate it

839
00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:50,079
doesn't address the core problem

840
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:52,079
which is the manipulation engine and as

841
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:53,679
long as that is there

842
00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:56,560
a bad actor can find a way to utilize it

843
00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:57,359
so

844
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:59,359
to me this this concern about data

845
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:00,560
protection

846
00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:03,359
while laudable doesn't address the core

847
00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:04,880
problem

848
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:07,520
okay friends so we're gonna we're gonna

849
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:09,119
cut that there

850
00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:10,800
uh but it's an excellent interview i'm

851
00:35:15,910 --> 00:35:13,119
gonna put a link in the description

852
00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:15,920
uh if you're if you are interested in

853
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:17,040
this subject

854
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:18,880
that's a good guy to listen to i think

855
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:20,320
he's very uh

856
00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:23,920
grounded and insightful

857
00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:26,240
and philosophical about the implications

858
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:28,400
and what may be the long term

859
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:30,560
implications if nothing is done to

860
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:33,599
change our current course

861
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:42,790
yeah so one of my notes is how do you

862
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:45,200
cure this mind virus

863
00:35:49,109 --> 00:35:48,160
i'm not sure i've given some thought to

864
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:49,119
this

865
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:51,119
how do you cure the mind virus that

866
00:35:56,829 --> 00:35:53,599
social media can create

867
00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:56,839
or how do you rid yourself of the mind

868
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:58,000
virus

869
00:36:01,589 --> 00:35:59,839
you know the first option that no one

870
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:01,599
wants to hear is to just delete

871
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:04,000
all your social media accounts delete

872
00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:06,640
your twitter facebook instagram

873
00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:09,359
snapchat whatever it is that you use

874
00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:11,359
delete it all

875
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:14,079
and maybe see how your life changes

876
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:15,920
after that

877
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:18,240
but most people are unwilling or unable

878
00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:18,960
to do that

879
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:21,680
i'm probably included in that list like

880
00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:22,000
i

881
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:26,320
my accounts or

882
00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:28,560
maybe because i have a lot of pictures

883
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:30,560
of my family and my kids

884
00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:33,760
on my facebook maybe i

885
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:36,320
wouldn't delete my facebook account i

886
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:38,960
just would stop logging in and using it

887
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:41,359
um

888
00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:44,720
yeah but i have not tried that

889
00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:48,000
and as far as twitter

890
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:50,320
i use twitter to promote the show here

891
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:51,599
so

892
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:56,160
my notes are to

893
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:59,119
uh if if i'm going to give this a try

894
00:37:01,510 --> 00:37:00,400
this is what i'm going to try i'm going

895
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:01,520
to try

896
00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:09,670
or twitter for a month except to post

897
00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:13,440
show links or show related material like

898
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:14,320
to promote

899
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:16,800
something in other words that's all i'm

900
00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:18,320
going to do i'm going to log on

901
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:21,200
post a show link and log off i'm not

902
00:37:26,069 --> 00:37:22,640
going to participate

903
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:26,079
in twitter facebook instagram

904
00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:30,240
or anything for a period of 30 days

905
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:33,200
and then i'm going to see how i feel

906
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:33,839
about

907
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:36,400
things after i do that and i would

908
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:37,680
welcome all of you to

909
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:40,800
do something very similar or just don't

910
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:41,920
log in at all

911
00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:44,160
i'm giving myself the excuse that i need

912
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:45,359
to promote

913
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:48,960
the show maybe that's a cop-out right

914
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:52,560
um but it's interesting to me um

915
00:37:58,390 --> 00:37:56,160
how just how many celebrities

916
00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:58,400
have social media managers and they

917
00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:00,320
never log on themselves

918
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:03,200
they only log on to promote whatever

919
00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:04,079
they're doing

920
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:07,599
right um and it's amazing how much some

921
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:08,560
of those

922
00:38:13,030 --> 00:38:10,480
entertainers pay the social media

923
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:13,040
manager whose job it is to handle

924
00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:19,589
another interesting thing that i would

925
00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:22,000
like to just discuss briefly is that i

926
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:22,960
know

927
00:38:27,109 --> 00:38:25,520
a lot of guys that work in silicon

928
00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:27,119
valley

929
00:38:30,550 --> 00:38:29,040
and all of them that have children

930
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:30,560
either severely

931
00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:32,560
limit their children's phone and screen

932
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:34,560
time

933
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:36,800
or not allow them to have social media

934
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:38,240
accounts

935
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:40,480
that's very telling if people that

936
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:42,240
knowledgeable about what's actually

937
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:47,829
protecting their children from what they

938
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:49,760
see as a danger

939
00:38:55,109 --> 00:38:53,280
shouldn't all of us be um

940
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:55,119
because it made me think of my own

941
00:39:01,030 --> 00:38:56,880
children if you

942
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:01,040
knew that someone let's say a neighbor

943
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:04,640
was manipulating your children right

944
00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:06,720
and you were sure that that neighbor was

945
00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:08,320
manipulating

946
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:11,359
your children wouldn't you stop that

947
00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:13,200
neighbor from having access to your

948
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:15,119
children any longer

949
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:17,839
wouldn't that be that would be the

950
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:20,720
fatherly thing to do right the parental

951
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:23,920
protector children thing to do

952
00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:26,800
and yet knowing the dangers of social

953
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:28,720
media and how they are manipulating

954
00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:32,240
everyone on there i haven't stopped my

955
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:34,720
children from using devices

956
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:36,880
uh but neither of them my children are

957
00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:38,720
four and eight so neither has a facebook

958
00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:43,510
you know twitter or anything like that

959
00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:46,480
but they're using youtube and they're

960
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:50,480
on the internet um for various reasons

961
00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:53,599
i try to limit their screen time i guess

962
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:57,119
but really neither of them is excessive

963
00:40:01,510 --> 00:39:59,920
right my four-year-old just got into

964
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:01,520
nintendo

965
00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:03,599
and that's his new thing but even that

966
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:05,359
my wife and i were surprised like he'll

967
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:06,000
play it for an

968
00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:09,200
hour but then he's done you know gets

969
00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:10,720
frustrated when he can't get past the

970
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:12,640
level and mario or something and then

971
00:40:15,270 --> 00:40:13,280
he's like

972
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:15,280
i keep dying that's enough and he turns

973
00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:16,560
it off and

974
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:18,560
sort of the same thing with both of them

975
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:19,760
with their phones

976
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:21,839
they both have phones that don't they're

977
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:22,880
not phones but

978
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:24,560
you know they're just like it's a cheap

979
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:27,599
tablet for 20 bucks or whatever right

980
00:40:32,470 --> 00:40:31,040
um little tablets so they watch youtube

981
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:32,480
videos on these

982
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:35,920
phones constantly but

983
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:38,400
not excessively like they'll sit there

984
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:39,760
and watch it for a while and then

985
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:41,760
they'll put it away

986
00:40:46,309 --> 00:40:44,560
or they leave it playing terrible music

987
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:46,319
in one room and go in another room and

988
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:47,599
do something else and i'm always

989
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:49,920
grabbing them and turning them off

990
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:52,640
but i think it's wise if you have

991
00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:53,440
children

992
00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:55,520
to limit how much time they're spending

993
00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:57,280
on the internet

994
00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:59,520
um and i wanted to we'll turn my

995
00:41:01,670 --> 00:41:01,280
attention my total attention to the live

996
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:01,680
chat

997
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:05,520
this is an important question

998
00:41:11,109 --> 00:41:08,960
i know the answer my answer

999
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:11,119
but if i think everybody in the live

1000
00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:12,800
chat is old enough that they grew up

1001
00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:13,440
without

1002
00:41:20,309 --> 00:41:16,640
social media right as a child

1003
00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:20,319
i mean so i want to ask you is your

1004
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:23,599
was your childhood better or worse

1005
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:26,240
for not having social media when you

1006
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:27,920
were a child

1007
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:35,910
people a little older uh who can

1008
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:38,000
remember a life without the internet and

1009
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:39,599
social media remember

1010
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:42,240
doing a lot more outdoor activities

1011
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:43,520
right

1012
00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:46,160
i used to ride my bike from the morning

1013
00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:47,599
you know especially in the summertime

1014
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:49,119
like get up in the morning

1015
00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:52,160
get my bike come back when it was dark

1016
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:53,920
and all the adventures that we would

1017
00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:55,599
have outside right

1018
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:57,280
the people we would meet the things we

1019
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:59,200
would do the kids we would hang out with

1020
00:42:02,470 --> 00:42:00,880
we're gonna go over here and play wiffle

1021
00:42:06,069 --> 00:42:02,480
ball you know or

1022
00:42:07,750 --> 00:42:06,079
we're gonna go play handball over there

1023
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:07,760
or we'd meet up at a park and do

1024
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:09,200
something

1025
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:12,319
and i just don't see that in fact like

1026
00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:14,960
it was funny i saw a group of kids in my

1027
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,880
neighborhood riding bikes together for

1028
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:18,640
the first time in a long time

1029
00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:21,440
have i seen that and i thought there

1030
00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:22,079
there

1031
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:23,920
that's what kids should be doing right

1032
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:26,560
not sitting in front of a screen for 12

1033
00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:27,680
hours a day

1034
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:31,119
but many children do

1035
00:42:34,870 --> 00:42:33,520
now as far as social media yeah so i

1036
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:34,880
want to know in a live chat

1037
00:42:38,069 --> 00:42:36,640
do you think your childhood was better

1038
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:38,079
or worse

1039
00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:41,200
having had not had social media when you

1040
00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:42,319
were a child

1041
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:44,960
that's my question to you normally i

1042
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:46,560
take questions but for once

1043
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:48,160
i'm asking the questions and i'd like

1044
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:49,599
you to answer an

1045
00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:52,880
out of mind is here better for my view i

1046
00:42:56,230 --> 00:42:54,560
cringe when i see two or three-year-old

1047
00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:56,240
grandkids on mommy's phone

1048
00:43:03,270 --> 00:42:59,760
trance down yeah it's it's a strange

1049
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:03,280
thing to older you know even to me

1050
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:06,400
you know it's a strange thing to see

1051
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:13,829
melissa i was born in 1996 but thanks

1052
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:15,440
for the assumption

1053
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:18,560
yeah so i guess uh melissa actually you

1054
00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:19,839
have had

1055
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:22,079
social media and internet your entire

1056
00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:23,040
life right

1057
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:24,839
you don't remember a time before the

1058
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:31,349
yeah jeanette krazenko stay outside

1059
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:34,480
catch lightning bugs daily bike rides

1060
00:43:39,910 --> 00:43:38,160
yeah i love stuff like that and you know

1061
00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:39,920
but that part of me thinks like am i

1062
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:42,319
just becoming a grumpy old man

1063
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:45,119
he's like these kids today you know like

1064
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:46,880
is that where i'm at in my life that

1065
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:48,160
i've become my dad

1066
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:50,160
like these kids today you don't know you

1067
00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:51,839
know my dad used to be like that he's

1068
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:53,760
tell stories about walking in the snow

1069
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:54,480
to school

1070
00:43:59,829 --> 00:43:56,640
five miles and [\h__\h] and his dad wouldn't

1071
00:44:01,990 --> 00:43:59,839
give him any money for the bus

1072
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:02,000
i guess i'm turning into my father now

1073
00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:04,400
like i'm like these damn kids and their

1074
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:05,040
phones

1075
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:08,400
but really i mean go

1076
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:10,800
go to any public event where there's a

1077
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:12,000
lot of children and

1078
00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:14,400
it's amazing to me how young some of

1079
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:15,280
these kids are

1080
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:18,560
on their phones you know um you know

1081
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:20,240
like my kids have phones but they don't

1082
00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:20,640
work

1083
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:21,839
outside you know what i mean they're

1084
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:24,000
really just cheap tablets for in-house

1085
00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:24,800
use

1086
00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:28,480
but to see kids in a park like

1087
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,400
i saw a woman in a park with her

1088
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:32,400
children not long ago

1089
00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:34,319
and one of her children was on the

1090
00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:36,800
swings and the swing set but the other

1091
00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:38,480
two or i think she might have three

1092
00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:40,720
other children were just sitting on a

1093
00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:41,920
bench on their phones

1094
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:44,720
and the mom was okay with this like you

1095
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:46,000
just brought your children to the

1096
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:47,440
playground so they could stare at their

1097
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:48,240
phone

1098
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:50,640
while this only one of them plays it's

1099
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:51,920
kind of weird

1100
00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:53,440
but this is the world that we live in

1101
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:55,359
now so connected

1102
00:45:02,470 --> 00:44:59,119
i mentioned the cabin you know i got to

1103
00:45:04,630 --> 00:45:02,480
do that there too i have to sort of

1104
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:04,640
discipline myself to use it for its

1105
00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:06,960
intended purpose which is to do shows

1106
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:10,000
from the cabin not to uh or

1107
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:11,839
you know i mean sometimes it rains and

1108
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:13,839
i'll just watch a documentary on youtube

1109
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:14,880
or netflix

1110
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:17,040
that's a good thing to have but the

1111
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:18,000
other thing i noticed

1112
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:20,720
is i guess i'm watching more stuff now

1113
00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:21,920
than i did

1114
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:23,920
before i used to take stuff on a thumb

1115
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:25,920
drive so i would have

1116
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:29,040
like you know a folder with four or five

1117
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:30,720
movies

1118
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:33,680
in a thumb drive and and that kind of i

1119
00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:35,440
liked better maybe because

1120
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:37,359
i would think about what do i want to

1121
00:45:40,870 --> 00:45:39,520
watch if i have time to watch something

1122
00:45:43,270 --> 00:45:40,880
at the cabin

1123
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:43,280
and uh it was less mindless stuff that i

1124
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:44,960
find myself watching now it's

1125
00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:47,119
the internet's there it's infected the

1126
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:48,560
cabinet's always on

1127
00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:51,520
so sure i'm gonna partake in some of the

1128
00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:53,119
goodies while i'm

1129
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:56,240
supposed to be working on the cabin

1130
00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:58,720
the only plus side i've seen besides

1131
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:01,119
being able to do a show from the cabin

1132
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:02,640
and being able to watch something if it

1133
00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:04,480
rains or whatever is

1134
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:08,079
the fact that uh music

1135
00:46:14,230 --> 00:46:11,200
i uh only had a radio at the cabin

1136
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:14,240
before the internet and the radios it's

1137
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:17,200
weird at the cabin as far as radio goes

1138
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:19,280
the rock radio stations

1139
00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:21,440
will come in but they're very weak so i

1140
00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:23,200
find myself like you know

1141
00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:24,800
trying to put this little boom box

1142
00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:26,560
wherever i can to get the

1143
00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:28,160
you know thing they're not being all

1144
00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:30,319
staticky and it's funny

1145
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,560
though the country stations strong as

1146
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:34,400
hell if i was a country music fan i'd

1147
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:35,920
have no problem with the radio but the

1148
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:39,040
rock stations are weak as [\h__\h]

1149
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:41,200
and i'm always like god damn it like you

1150
00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:42,960
know moving the radio

1151
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:45,359
so now though with the internet i have

1152
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:47,280
access to

1153
00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:50,000
you know anything that i want to listen

1154
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:50,960
to

1155
00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:56,710
one positive benefit that i really like

1156
00:47:02,390 --> 00:46:59,119
about the internet is the ability to

1157
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:02,400
literally listen to anything you want

1158
00:47:07,589 --> 00:47:05,040
or watch anything you want if you look

1159
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:07,599
enough you'll find it

1160
00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:09,680
i love being able to stream anything

1161
00:47:13,270 --> 00:47:11,599
that i want music-wise anything i think

1162
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:13,280
of like i remember an album that i

1163
00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:15,359
really enjoyed

1164
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:18,400
one night it was like raining and uh oh

1165
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:21,440
i listened to the cures disintegration

1166
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:24,000
uh in full one night at the cabin when

1167
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:25,359
it was raining and it was

1168
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:28,319
nice kind of fire dulling listening to a

1169
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:31,599
great old album that i used to love

1170
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:33,280
that's what i like the internet for the

1171
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:34,720
ability to just

1172
00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:36,079
have anything you want at your

1173
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:38,559
fingertips but this

1174
00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:41,680
this social media stuff is scary to me

1175
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:43,760
and i also you know why i'm going to

1176
00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:45,040
take a break

1177
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:48,079
is not is mostly due to thinking about

1178
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:49,920
these things after this documentary

1179
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:51,119
again

1180
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:53,040
um you know honestly i've been thinking

1181
00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:54,319
about this stuff a lot because of the

1182
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:55,520
cabin and the internet

1183
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:57,200
even before watching this documentary

1184
00:48:01,829 --> 00:47:59,599
but this documentary cemented it for me

1185
00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:01,839
and made me go i'm going to take some

1186
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:03,839
time off there and see

1187
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:07,040
if i you know feel less

1188
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:11,200
anxiety feel less manipulated right

1189
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:14,319
the fact that i know 100 for certain now

1190
00:48:19,030 --> 00:48:17,280
that every time i log into social media

1191
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:19,040
there's some algorithm trying to

1192
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:20,800
manipulate me

1193
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:23,520
it makes me want to not be there right

1194
00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:24,640
like if somebody was

1195
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:28,240
subtly abusing you and it was subtle it

1196
00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:29,760
wasn't like they were walking up to him

1197
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:31,280
punching me in the face you know they

1198
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:31,760
were just

1199
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:34,079
subtly subtly abusing you ever so

1200
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:37,200
slightly every time you were near them

1201
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:40,240
wouldn't you stop being near them this

1202
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:41,599
is the question

1203
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,839
that i'm asking myself if i know i'm

1204
00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:45,359
being abused if i know i'm being

1205
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:47,599
manipulated if i know

1206
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:48,880
that these companies have these

1207
00:48:52,790 --> 00:48:50,640
nefarious

1208
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:52,800
agenda and they're collecting everything

1209
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:54,480
that i do

1210
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:57,200
and there's another thing the eula

1211
00:49:00,150 --> 00:48:58,160
that's that thing

1212
00:49:02,230 --> 00:49:00,160
that box you have to click when you sign

1213
00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:02,240
up for this all this [\h__\h] they all have

1214
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:03,280
that 10 page

1215
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:06,160
thing nobody reads any of it so they

1216
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:07,920
spell it out for you we can read your

1217
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:10,400
messages we can read your emails we can

1218
00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:13,040
track what you watch we can track what

1219
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:16,240
you click on we can use that data to

1220
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:19,599
target ads to you and sell to our

1221
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:21,520
advertising friends

1222
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:23,440
at a much higher success rate thanks to

1223
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:25,680
our ai algorithms that are watching

1224
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:28,319
every single thing you do

1225
00:49:34,870 --> 00:49:31,520
yeah it makes me go if i know

1226
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:34,880
this is the agenda maybe i should

1227
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:37,599
not participate in it at all or at the

1228
00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:40,000
very least if for business reasons i

1229
00:49:43,990 --> 00:49:42,079
have to participate in it i should

1230
00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:44,000
participate in it as little as

1231
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:48,160
possible so what do you guys think

1232
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:50,960
uh and who feels addicted to social

1233
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:51,520
media

1234
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:53,680
who feels they couldn't delete their

1235
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:55,440
accounts who feels they could

1236
00:50:02,069 --> 00:49:56,880
who in the live chat thinks that they

1237
00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:04,230
i'll take some comments out of mine says

1238
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:07,040
i go back to a time before fm radio

1239
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:09,280
just am how did i even make it yeah that

1240
00:50:12,549 --> 00:50:11,680
was even shittier wasn't it am radio is

1241
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:12,559
always shitty

1242
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:16,480
i we have a we have news radio station

1243
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:17,359
here

1244
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:20,480
and i grew up in philadelphia everybody

1245
00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:21,280
around here

1246
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:24,079
listens to it it's kyw news radio but

1247
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:24,480
it's on

1248
00:50:31,270 --> 00:50:27,680
am and i think it's 10 60 a.m

1249
00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:31,280
you could have the best stereo with

1250
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:34,960
antennas outside on your roof

1251
00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:37,680
even and it still sounds like [\h__\h] it's

1252
00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:39,040
like the am people

1253
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:41,280
just went look it sounds like [\h__\h] but

1254
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:48,549
oh genocide i barely remember am rock

1255
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:49,280
radio

1256
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:53,440
when i was growing up

1257
00:50:58,230 --> 00:50:56,960
uh all that was on am was opera

1258
00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:58,240
i don't know why but there's a lot of

1259
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:00,400
opera on am radio

1260
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:03,760
and news and

1261
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:06,240
talk radio stations but i was a big fan

1262
00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:08,000
of talk radio stations

1263
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:10,000
it was kind of like art bell but without

1264
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:11,440
all the paranormal and strange stuff

1265
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:12,720
they would talk about news

1266
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:16,400
current events you know politics and uh

1267
00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:19,760
and they were like just local guys

1268
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:22,160
so hey that gave me a love for radio and

1269
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:23,680
talk radio and maybe it's one of the

1270
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,040
reasons why i do

1271
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:27,359
a show like i do and the radio show i

1272
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:29,200
did because i grew up listening to that

1273
00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:29,599
stuff

1274
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:36,470
wow bunya showing their age i remember

1275
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:36,800
when

1276
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:39,280
fm radio kicked off in oz he's from

1277
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:40,640
australia folks

1278
00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:43,359
buddy why do you guys call it oz i just

1279
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:43,920
i know

1280
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:46,079
i've heard a bunch of you say that oz

1281
00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:48,240
but i never knew why exactly do you call

1282
00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:49,440
it oz

1283
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:52,079
first song they played was breathe by

1284
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:52,880
floyd

1285
00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:55,200
an excellent choice right that's an

1286
00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:58,000
excellent choice

1287
00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:00,880
just like mtv right what was mtv's first

1288
00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:02,800
video wasn't it video killed a radio

1289
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:03,599
star

1290
00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:13,430
jeanette kuzetko says families did

1291
00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:15,200
things together back then

1292
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:18,000
yeah i i grew up with a father that was

1293
00:52:24,069 --> 00:52:20,000
always dragging us to do something

1294
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:24,079
he loved like weekend activities right

1295
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:25,680
it didn't matter what it was like he

1296
00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:27,200
would take us to museums he would take

1297
00:52:33,190 --> 00:52:29,280
us camping he would take us to

1298
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:33,200
different campgrounds boy scout stuff

1299
00:52:39,829 --> 00:52:37,440
he liked loved like flea markets

1300
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:39,839
carnivals uh we went to all the

1301
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:42,000
amusement parks that we could

1302
00:52:45,589 --> 00:52:43,680
we were he was always dragging us

1303
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:45,599
somewhere and i'm a little bit like that

1304
00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:47,520
like with my kids and my wife like all

1305
00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:48,079
right let's

1306
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:50,960
you know go do something this weekend

1307
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:52,240
with the kids we even

1308
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:54,240
found these huge we've had a huge

1309
00:52:58,549 --> 00:52:56,800
playground once in new jersey

1310
00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:58,559
and we would just drive out there and go

1311
00:53:01,910 --> 00:53:00,240
to this huge playground

1312
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:01,920
now that was before my second son that

1313
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:06,870
movie said well i was born recently but

1314
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:08,400
i still like your show so you must be

1315
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:09,680
doing something right

1316
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:11,760
and i don't need old-time ways to enjoy

1317
00:53:15,349 --> 00:53:13,599
thank you i appreciate that melisa

1318
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:15,359
it's good to hear it's going to give

1319
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:17,280
some positive feedback

1320
00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:19,760
oh i guess i should address some a bit

1321
00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:21,440
of business

1322
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:24,000
i had a stream before this one which was

1323
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:25,520
deleted

1324
00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:30,480
and uh what i'll say

1325
00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:32,480
it's never a good idea to drink and

1326
00:53:36,309 --> 00:53:34,480
scream never

1327
00:53:37,829 --> 00:53:36,319
never did it seemed like a good idea at

1328
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:37,839
the time

1329
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:41,520
so i apologize to anybody that had to

1330
00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:42,000
witness

1331
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:45,280
that stream uh but then again i heard

1332
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:46,640
that some people enjoyed it

1333
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:49,920
i was a bit off my uh off my

1334
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:53,040
rocker really and there's no way that i

1335
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:54,400
should have ever been

1336
00:53:58,390 --> 00:53:57,440
streaming in that condition a few people

1337
00:54:02,230 --> 00:53:58,400
have expressed

1338
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:02,240
concern uh i'm good i'm really okay

1339
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:06,720
uh it was a momentary lapse of judgment

1340
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:08,640
and that will happen to you right when

1341
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:10,079
you're

1342
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:11,920
i think i drank 10 beers and then

1343
00:54:15,349 --> 00:54:13,680
decided you know what i'm gonna get some

1344
00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:15,359
[\h__\h] off my chest

1345
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:18,319
and uh that was not a good idea it was

1346
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:20,880
really not a good idea

1347
00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:23,119
i am going to revisit some of the things

1348
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:24,240
that may

1349
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:28,319
got me drunk angry uh

1350
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:31,200
takes a lot to get me angry um but some

1351
00:54:35,589 --> 00:54:32,640
of you know that i'm getting

1352
00:54:36,069 --> 00:54:35,599
a lot of harassment from a certain ufo

1353
00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:36,079
cult

1354
00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:39,920
spokesperson and uh even involving my

1355
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:40,799
family

1356
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:44,160
and sort of i mean i was about to say

1357
00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:45,520
veiled threats i don't even think

1358
00:54:48,549 --> 00:54:46,880
they're veil threats i think they're

1359
00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:48,559
just threats

1360
00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:52,160
and uh

1361
00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:55,839
you can anyone can

1362
00:54:59,990 --> 00:54:58,960
say anything to me really wouldn't

1363
00:55:02,230 --> 00:55:00,000
bother me

1364
00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:02,240
really you know or at least it wouldn't

1365
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:04,000
bother me enough to kind of trigger me

1366
00:55:07,589 --> 00:55:04,559
and make me

1367
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:07,599
lose my [\h__\h] but if you involve my

1368
00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:08,640
family

1369
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:10,559
well what do you think i'm gonna do you

1370
00:55:20,789 --> 00:55:17,190
a father is the protector of his family

1371
00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:20,799
and some of us are fierce fierce

1372
00:55:27,270 --> 00:55:24,400
protectors right you want to piss me off

1373
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:27,280
and incur the rap of cambion

1374
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:29,920
you threaten my family that's what you

1375
00:55:33,589 --> 00:55:30,960
do

1376
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:33,599
so and this is not a defense of what i

1377
00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:34,400
did

1378
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:37,839
uh or junk streaming um

1379
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:40,480
but it's just some explanation for what

1380
00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:40,880
what

1381
00:55:46,950 --> 00:55:44,960
led to that and uh

1382
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:46,960
we're going to return to that subject

1383
00:55:53,109 --> 00:55:49,200
actually but do it in a sober

1384
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:53,119
and methodical

1385
00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:57,200
sort of investigatory way and show

1386
00:56:01,430 --> 00:55:59,119
some of the emails that i've been

1387
00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:01,440
getting from this clam

1388
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:03,200
and that's what he is he's a [\h__\h]

1389
00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:05,040
clown who has been

1390
00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:07,280
who's dedicated his life to some ufo

1391
00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:08,799
prophet whose only proof

1392
00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:11,599
is fake ufo pictures made out of trash

1393
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:13,920
cane lids and [\h__\h]

1394
00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:16,400
and he knows who he is and most of the

1395
00:56:20,990 --> 00:56:17,440
people here know who

1396
00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:21,000
yeah so we'll get back to that but in a

1397
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:24,400
sober somber serious way

1398
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:26,640
because i think the subject is important

1399
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:28,319
why is it that

1400
00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:30,799
you know somebody can tell the truth

1401
00:56:34,549 --> 00:56:31,599
about

1402
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:34,559
some cult it doesn't have to be billy

1403
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:35,680
myers crazy

1404
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:39,359
ufo cold ufo sex cult um

1405
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:42,960
it could be scientology or

1406
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:46,160
you know nexium right

1407
00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:49,200
they will go to the ends of the earth to

1408
00:56:56,829 --> 00:56:51,200
silence their critics

1409
00:57:04,549 --> 00:56:59,829
important

1410
00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:09,510
yeah i don't mind that's another thing

1411
00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:11,750
social media is good for arguing it's

1412
00:57:15,589 --> 00:57:13,680
great for arguing with strangers

1413
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:15,599
you want to you want to argue with

1414
00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:16,720
strangers all day

1415
00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:18,400
just log onto twitter and start replying

1416
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:20,160
to threads of people you disagree with

1417
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:22,240
and you'll argue with people all [\h__\h]

1418
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:24,400
day all day you can you can waste an

1419
00:57:29,349 --> 00:57:26,400
entire day arguing with complete and

1420
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:32,069
or people you kind of know that happens

1421
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:33,760
too

1422
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:35,599
as far as that clearly out of mind like

1423
00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:37,839
i was going to readdress it on my show

1424
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:39,440
but i feel like

1425
00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:41,760
this guy's making stupid allegations

1426
00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:43,520
about something that was a goof

1427
00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:46,559
it was a goof what he's saying right

1428
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:48,720
what he's talking about that i'm lying

1429
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:49,760
to my listeners

1430
00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:51,839
it was first of all it was a [\h__\h]

1431
00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:52,960
goof

1432
00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:56,000
and then you know the

1433
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:58,799
paradise fires happened and then i i

1434
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:00,960
think it was about a year later that i

1435
00:58:07,270 --> 00:58:03,440
called some dentists from that place

1436
00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:07,280
and he's saying stephen canyon's lying

1437
00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:08,640
to everybody he couldn't have called

1438
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:10,240
these dentists because they all burned

1439
00:58:16,150 --> 00:58:11,839
down

1440
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:16,160
uh no i don't think that's accurate

1441
00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:18,400
and number two i was calling dennis

1442
00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:19,920
office having googled

1443
00:58:25,349 --> 00:58:23,280
paradise california dentists a year

1444
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:25,359
or maybe even a year and a half after

1445
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:27,599
the paradise fires

1446
00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:30,880
if we there's on yelp there's

1447
00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:33,839
five pages of paradise california

1448
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:35,440
dentists

1449
00:58:40,150 --> 00:58:38,400
i just pulled up that list called a few

1450
00:58:41,190 --> 00:58:40,160
a few answered their phone a few it was

1451
00:58:44,150 --> 00:58:41,200
receptionist

1452
00:58:45,190 --> 00:58:44,160
a few i believe may have been answering

1453
00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:45,200
services

1454
00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:47,200
but these dentists are professional

1455
00:58:50,789 --> 00:58:48,799
people with practices

1456
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:50,799
and patience they're not just going to

1457
00:58:54,710 --> 00:58:52,640
shut down their phones

1458
00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:54,720
because their office burned down they're

1459
00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:56,559
going to forward the calls

1460
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:59,440
or they're going to by a year and a half

1461
00:59:02,789 --> 00:59:00,799
from the fires they're going to have a

1462
00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:02,799
new office location and be answering

1463
00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:04,880
their phone from there

1464
00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:08,000
so it is what it is this clown said i

1465
00:59:13,109 --> 00:59:09,760
lied about it and it was a goof

1466
00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:13,119
it was me calling dentists because

1467
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:17,119
let me see excuse me

1468
00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:23,990
so the goof was this david wilcox said

1469
00:59:28,390 --> 00:59:25,200
that the paradise

1470
00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:28,400
california fires were were not natural

1471
00:59:31,030 --> 00:59:28,880
they were

1472
00:59:31,990 --> 00:59:31,040
caused by directed energy weapons the

1473
00:59:33,990 --> 00:59:32,000
government destroyed

1474
00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:34,000
the town because there was too many tall

1475
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:36,400
white aliens living there

1476
00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:39,119
in paradise california and these tall

1477
00:59:42,309 --> 00:59:40,640
white aliens had

1478
00:59:44,390 --> 00:59:42,319
teeth that were different from humans

1479
00:59:46,150 --> 00:59:44,400
and the dentists in paradise california

1480
00:59:48,309 --> 00:59:46,160
had to be specially trained to work on

1481
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:48,319
those aliens teeth

1482
00:59:51,430 --> 00:59:50,720
so i thought it would be funny as a it's

1483
00:59:53,829 --> 00:59:51,440
a [\h__\h]

1484
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:53,839
goof i thought it would be funny let's

1485
00:59:57,430 --> 00:59:55,680
call some of these dentists

1486
00:59:58,950 --> 00:59:57,440
and find out did they really get

1487
01:00:02,630 --> 00:59:58,960
specially trained to work on

1488
01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:02,640
aliens teeth like david wilcox said

1489
01:00:07,349 --> 01:00:05,520
and a few of those people that answered

1490
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:07,359
their phone just hung up on me that

1491
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:10,240
you know a few of them was like

1492
01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:11,520
receptionists or

1493
01:00:15,270 --> 01:00:14,079
answering service people who said well

1494
01:00:17,109 --> 01:00:15,280
we'll ask the

1495
01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:17,119
dentist and and have somebody call you

1496
01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:19,599
back and i got a few phone calls back

1497
01:00:22,069 --> 01:00:20,880
we're like

1498
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:22,079
we don't really know what you're talking

1499
01:00:24,789 --> 01:00:23,760
about nobody here knows anything about

1500
01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:24,799
aliens or

1501
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:28,400
alien teeth or being trained for that

1502
01:00:32,710 --> 01:00:30,640
and that was sufficient to like make

1503
01:00:34,390 --> 01:00:32,720
david wilcock look like the dumbest that

1504
01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:34,400
he is making these

1505
01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:36,480
stupid claims like dentists being

1506
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:37,920
specially trained

1507
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:41,119
so it was a goof

1508
01:00:44,789 --> 01:00:42,720
he's saying i'm lying i couldn't call

1509
01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:44,799
them all their offices burned down

1510
01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:48,160
okay go everybody can do this

1511
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:51,839
google paradise california dentists

1512
01:00:57,030 --> 01:00:54,720
and call their numbers tell me how many

1513
01:00:59,030 --> 01:00:57,040
of them pick up the phone

1514
01:01:00,230 --> 01:00:59,040
they're gonna pick up the phone you

1515
01:01:02,069 --> 01:01:00,240
dumbass

1516
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:02,079
and why am i even arguing over this

1517
01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:04,000
stuff because listen i've already

1518
01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:06,480
so i've already explained that once what

1519
01:01:09,990 --> 01:01:08,160
happened in that situation and this

1520
01:01:12,390 --> 01:01:10,000
person making ridiculous allegations

1521
01:01:13,990 --> 01:01:12,400
and by the way this person has had major

1522
01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:14,000
major problems with

1523
01:01:17,670 --> 01:01:15,920
so many different people all he does is

1524
01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:17,680
argue with people all he does is

1525
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:20,799
spell vetement people get nasty

1526
01:01:28,549 --> 01:01:25,440
make threats he made

1527
01:01:30,950 --> 01:01:28,559
transphobic comments and other

1528
01:01:32,870 --> 01:01:30,960
really really ridiculous comments on

1529
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:32,880
twitter recently

1530
01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:35,839
just an [\h__\h] you know i hope he gets

1531
01:01:42,950 --> 01:01:37,440
some help for his issues

1532
01:01:48,549 --> 01:01:46,150
our pet nut job is now going back making

1533
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:48,559
comments on old videos nash put up

1534
01:01:56,309 --> 01:01:51,040
i finally called him out and he stopped

1535
01:02:02,230 --> 01:01:59,430
oh god gee i've been raging it yeah he's

1536
01:02:04,069 --> 01:02:02,240
always angry and nasty and like

1537
01:02:06,870 --> 01:02:04,079
and you know what i noticed he turns on

1538
01:02:09,349 --> 01:02:06,880
everybody right he was very friendly

1539
01:02:12,549 --> 01:02:09,359
with me he wanted me to do a story

1540
01:02:14,150 --> 01:02:12,559
right on uh david wilcock and the

1541
01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:14,160
[\h__\h] that he was feeling about the

1542
01:02:17,910 --> 01:02:16,000
paradise california fires

1543
01:02:19,430 --> 01:02:17,920
i watched the video where david wilcock

1544
01:02:20,549 --> 01:02:19,440
made all these claims and said yeah

1545
01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:20,559
that's ridiculous

1546
01:02:23,510 --> 01:02:22,000
all these people had their houses burned

1547
01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:23,520
down david wilcox should leave them

1548
01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:25,200
alone and not be trying to tie in

1549
01:02:28,789 --> 01:02:28,079
crazy alien conspiracies david wilcox an

1550
01:02:31,109 --> 01:02:28,799
[\h__\h]

1551
01:02:32,230 --> 01:02:31,119
so i did the show and by the way when i

1552
01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:32,240
did that show

1553
01:02:37,190 --> 01:02:35,440
he didn't say anything about this i lied

1554
01:02:40,710 --> 01:02:37,200
i couldn't call dentists it was

1555
01:02:43,270 --> 01:02:40,720
later it was later after i did a show on

1556
01:02:43,990 --> 01:02:43,280
sarah adams who's another person that he

1557
01:02:47,349 --> 01:02:44,000
went and

1558
01:02:50,710 --> 01:02:47,359
complete and total nutso on you know

1559
01:02:52,789 --> 01:02:50,720
uh i think i think she had a

1560
01:02:55,190 --> 01:02:52,799
signal with lawyer letters and get a

1561
01:02:57,349 --> 01:02:55,200
restraining order that's how bad it got

1562
01:02:58,549 --> 01:02:57,359
i could be wrong pardon me if i

1563
01:03:00,630 --> 01:02:58,559
misspeaking

1564
01:03:02,549 --> 01:03:00,640
at the very least i think that she sent

1565
01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:02,559
him some kind of letter from a lawyer

1566
01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:04,240
or told him that she would if he

1567
01:03:11,270 --> 01:03:07,920
continued in his harassment

1568
01:03:11,990 --> 01:03:11,280
he's had problems with c.w channer a few

1569
01:03:14,470 --> 01:03:12,000
other people

1570
01:03:15,029 --> 01:03:14,480
oh he went on points on the curve and

1571
01:03:16,549 --> 01:03:15,039
then he

1572
01:03:18,870 --> 01:03:16,559
as soon as he was done being on that

1573
01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:18,880
guy's show he turned on that guy

1574
01:03:23,430 --> 01:03:22,079
a 180 degree turn called him a liar he

1575
01:03:25,670 --> 01:03:23,440
can't be trusted

1576
01:03:26,789 --> 01:03:25,680
this and that why did you go on a show

1577
01:03:28,069 --> 01:03:26,799
and why didn't you say that stuff when

1578
01:03:28,870 --> 01:03:28,079
you were on the show when he was on the

1579
01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:28,880
show he was

1580
01:03:33,990 --> 01:03:31,920
everything was great you know he gets as

1581
01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:34,000
soon as he's off the guy's show

1582
01:03:37,109 --> 01:03:35,440
i think he's got some weird

1583
01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:37,119
psychological issues where like if he

1584
01:03:39,829 --> 01:03:37,680
doesn't get

1585
01:03:41,029 --> 01:03:39,839
exactly what he wants out of people he

1586
01:03:44,549 --> 01:03:41,039
turns on them

1587
01:03:46,870 --> 01:03:44,559
it's happened to me like uh

1588
01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:46,880
he i didn't cover the sarah adams story

1589
01:03:49,750 --> 01:03:48,000
the way he wanted

1590
01:03:52,069 --> 01:03:49,760
because he [\h__\h] hates her and has

1591
01:03:55,829 --> 01:03:52,079
some pathological hatred towards her

1592
01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:55,839
uh so he went nuts [\h__\h]

1593
01:04:01,270 --> 01:03:58,799
balls nuts at me he went [\h__\h] balls nuts

1594
01:04:02,789 --> 01:04:01,280
at cw channel over something ridiculous

1595
01:04:05,029 --> 01:04:02,799
like doxing somebody

1596
01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:05,039
who everybody knew who they were

1597
01:04:11,990 --> 01:04:09,829
everybody knew who their handle in their

1598
01:04:15,750 --> 01:04:12,000
chat was steven cheater used

1599
01:04:17,990 --> 01:04:15,760
his real name and this guy in geoff went

1600
01:04:19,510 --> 01:04:18,000
nuts you doxed my friend and even the

1601
01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:19,520
person that was on the show was like no

1602
01:04:22,710 --> 01:04:20,160
he didn't

1603
01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:22,720
we're good me and c chainer are okay

1604
01:04:27,589 --> 01:04:24,480
he's still got issues with that guy

1605
01:04:28,470 --> 01:04:27,599
so you know [\h__\h] him that's what i say

1606
01:04:30,390 --> 01:04:28,480
[\h__\h] him

1607
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:30,400
and and the fact that like we i've

1608
01:04:33,349 --> 01:04:31,920
already been through this [\h__\h] that he

1609
01:04:35,910 --> 01:04:33,359
was claiming once

1610
01:04:38,150 --> 01:04:35,920
we addressed it on a previous show so

1611
01:04:40,069 --> 01:04:38,160
when that twitter thing was raging

1612
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:40,079
i was trying to find the show where i

1613
01:04:43,270 --> 01:04:41,680
already covered this but i couldn't

1614
01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:43,280
because you know my streams are two

1615
01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:44,160
hours long

1616
01:04:47,829 --> 01:04:45,760
and by the way that was part of what

1617
01:04:49,109 --> 01:04:47,839
this argument was about he said i lied

1618
01:04:51,190 --> 01:04:49,119
and somebody said do you have a time

1619
01:04:53,029 --> 01:04:51,200
stamp where he lied or some i don't know

1620
01:04:54,870 --> 01:04:53,039
somebody was defending me and god bless

1621
01:04:57,190 --> 01:04:54,880
him a few people were defending me and

1622
01:04:58,870 --> 01:04:57,200
god bless all of them

1623
01:05:00,950 --> 01:04:58,880
you know but the long and the short of

1624
01:05:02,549 --> 01:05:00,960
the story was the whole thing about me

1625
01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:02,559
calling dennis was a goof

1626
01:05:05,750 --> 01:05:04,799
on david wilcock he said i lied i

1627
01:05:09,349 --> 01:05:05,760
couldn't

1628
01:05:12,789 --> 01:05:09,359
[\h__\h] you i did prove me wrong you can't

1629
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:12,799
you know and uh yeah so

1630
01:05:15,990 --> 01:05:14,799
this is a great example of the detriment

1631
01:05:19,029 --> 01:05:16,000
of social media too

1632
01:05:21,589 --> 01:05:19,039
like the last time

1633
01:05:22,470 --> 01:05:21,599
some twitter thing erupted about this

1634
01:05:25,109 --> 01:05:22,480
issue

1635
01:05:27,510 --> 01:05:25,119
of me calling the dentists i engaged and

1636
01:05:30,950 --> 01:05:27,520
said [\h__\h] you this is what happened

1637
01:05:33,430 --> 01:05:30,960
here's a list of you know [\h__\h] you and

1638
01:05:34,789 --> 01:05:33,440
and it was like a three-day thing to try

1639
01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:34,799
to get it settled and

1640
01:05:39,990 --> 01:05:38,160
shut this idiot up and shut him down

1641
01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:40,000
and this time i was in the cabin i'm

1642
01:05:43,750 --> 01:05:41,920
busy i'm working on a cabin i said

1643
01:05:45,829 --> 01:05:43,760
[\h__\h] them i'm not going to say anything

1644
01:05:48,870 --> 01:05:45,839
i'll address it quickly on my show

1645
01:05:49,990 --> 01:05:48,880
so for anybody that does want a time

1646
01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:50,000
stamp i'll provide

1647
01:05:54,789 --> 01:05:52,799
one of this whole [\h__\h] long

1648
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:54,799
explanation of why this guy's an [\h__\h]

1649
01:06:00,230 --> 01:05:55,920
and an idiot

1650
01:06:03,109 --> 01:06:00,240
and uh yeah you can time stamp that [\h__\h]

1651
01:06:04,309 --> 01:06:03,119
jay off gee off whatever the [\h__\h] your

1652
01:06:06,710 --> 01:06:04,319
name is

1653
01:06:08,630 --> 01:06:06,720
and you know i'm just uh what's that

1654
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:08,640
saying about suffering fools right

1655
01:06:11,990 --> 01:06:10,240
i'm just not going to suffer fools i'm

1656
01:06:12,309 --> 01:06:12,000
not going to suffer fools if somebody's

1657
01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:12,319
an

1658
01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:17,200
guy's one of the few people on social

1659
01:06:20,470 --> 01:06:19,200
media that i block i block that guy and

1660
01:06:22,069 --> 01:06:20,480
the guy that's always

1661
01:06:23,589 --> 01:06:22,079
telling cw chain or he's going to get

1662
01:06:26,150 --> 01:06:23,599
raped in prison or he hopes he gets

1663
01:06:28,230 --> 01:06:26,160
raped in prison whatever that guy's

1664
01:06:30,069 --> 01:06:28,240
newest twitter fake handle is i always

1665
01:06:30,549 --> 01:06:30,079
block that guy because he says crazy

1666
01:06:33,510 --> 01:06:30,559
[\h__\h]

1667
01:06:35,510 --> 01:06:33,520
to me too uh much to his credit he's

1668
01:06:36,309 --> 01:06:35,520
never wished i got raped in prison like

1669
01:06:39,430 --> 01:06:36,319
he does to

1670
01:06:41,510 --> 01:06:39,440
see every chatter but i sort of uh just

1671
01:06:43,670 --> 01:06:41,520
avoid that guy because he says

1672
01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:43,680
nutty [\h__\h] to me so every time he

1673
01:06:48,069 --> 01:06:46,000
creates a new account i blocked that guy

1674
01:06:49,829 --> 01:06:48,079
generally i don't block anybody but

1675
01:06:51,670 --> 01:06:49,839
there's a few people that i just say

1676
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:51,680
i'm just not gonna [\h__\h] this guy i'm not

1677
01:06:58,829 --> 01:06:53,119
gonna put up with this [\h__\h] you're

1678
01:06:58,839 --> 01:07:03,270
right

1679
01:07:06,789 --> 01:07:05,270
after out of mind should introduce mr

1680
01:07:07,270 --> 01:07:06,799
stephen to what happened with that other

1681
01:07:09,910 --> 01:07:07,280
guy

1682
01:07:10,789 --> 01:07:09,920
he could probably even do a study case

1683
01:07:13,109 --> 01:07:10,799
around it

1684
01:07:15,349 --> 01:07:13,119
yeah i like funny stories and not jobs

1685
01:07:19,510 --> 01:07:15,359
so yeah i don't want to get with me

1686
01:07:23,029 --> 01:07:21,670
yeah spooky defended me and took help

1687
01:07:30,549 --> 01:07:23,039
for it spooky's good people

1688
01:07:34,950 --> 01:07:33,430
yeah so i thought it would be a good

1689
01:07:36,630 --> 01:07:34,960
idea to talk about this social media

1690
01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:36,640
stuff especially like here we're just

1691
01:07:39,910 --> 01:07:38,400
talking about just recent events just

1692
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:39,920
this last couple of days this big

1693
01:07:43,910 --> 01:07:40,400
twitter

1694
01:07:45,589 --> 01:07:43,920
battle royale [\h__\h] erupted and like

1695
01:07:47,029 --> 01:07:45,599
and i'm at the cabin and i'm trying not

1696
01:07:49,270 --> 01:07:47,039
to pay attention

1697
01:07:50,309 --> 01:07:49,280
uh but i have to because you know it's

1698
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:50,319
like

1699
01:07:53,910 --> 01:07:52,319
to say [\h__\h] back saying i'm lying

1700
01:07:55,829 --> 01:07:53,920
again like did he already

1701
01:08:03,029 --> 01:07:55,839
we already went through this [\h__\h] now

1702
01:08:06,789 --> 01:08:04,789
and by the way i was gonna look up

1703
01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:06,799
dentists and call them live on air to

1704
01:08:10,150 --> 01:08:08,160
prove that they're answering their phone

1705
01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:10,160
but i figure people can do that

1706
01:08:14,069 --> 01:08:11,920
call 10 of them tell me how many pick up

1707
01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:14,079
the phone i'm going to tell you most of

1708
01:08:16,470 --> 01:08:14,640
them

1709
01:08:18,870 --> 01:08:16,480
that you find on google if you search

1710
01:08:19,749 --> 01:08:18,880
for paradise california dennis are going

1711
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:19,759
to

1712
01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:22,080
uh yeah and that's see that's where he

1713
01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:23,440
leaves out he leaves

1714
01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:25,199
he's acting like i called all the

1715
01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:27,279
dentists the day after the fires

1716
01:08:31,349 --> 01:08:29,279
it was a year and a half or something

1717
01:08:35,189 --> 01:08:31,359
like that after the fires

1718
01:08:37,749 --> 01:08:35,199
ridiculous brad gray is here shout out

1719
01:08:40,149 --> 01:08:37,759
to brad gray

1720
01:08:41,669 --> 01:08:40,159
out to jeanette chrisenko shout out to

1721
01:08:44,309 --> 01:08:41,679
genocide

1722
01:08:45,669 --> 01:08:44,319
i saw jiggy earlier shout out to jiggy

1723
01:08:49,030 --> 01:08:45,679
out of mind

1724
01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:49,040
melissa of course bunya

1725
01:08:54,709 --> 01:08:52,319
uh let's see carol utley

1726
01:08:57,269 --> 01:08:54,719
is here shout out to carol utley good to

1727
01:09:01,189 --> 01:08:58,470
yeah actually it's good to see all of

1728
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:01,199
you i missed you guys i gotta get

1729
01:09:05,430 --> 01:09:04,239
more disciplined about doing shows from

1730
01:09:08,070 --> 01:09:05,440
the cabin

1731
01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:08,080
and uh i saw some of the lighting and

1732
01:09:12,789 --> 01:09:10,000
and weird like the stream looking like

1733
01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:12,799
[\h__\h] issues but i was just be

1734
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:20,390
yeah so sometimes it's just i just don't

1735
01:09:23,669 --> 01:09:22,080
have the energy for the stream but i

1736
01:09:26,390 --> 01:09:23,679
noticed like today's numbers

1737
01:09:28,470 --> 01:09:26,400
are pretty low and that happens every

1738
01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:28,480
time i take a break it's like

1739
01:09:31,990 --> 01:09:30,080
everybody forgets about me for a little

1740
01:09:33,349 --> 01:09:32,000
while and then goes oh he's back but not

1741
01:09:36,229 --> 01:09:33,359
enough people hear about me

1742
01:09:38,149 --> 01:09:36,239
doing a new show so i'm going to try to

1743
01:09:39,829 --> 01:09:38,159
get better at

1744
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:39,839
being more consistent let's do four of

1745
01:09:44,550 --> 01:09:42,480
these a week like i originally

1746
01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:44,560
sort of committed to these last few

1747
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:46,719
weeks failed miserably i think i did one

1748
01:09:51,669 --> 01:09:48,000
or two

1749
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:51,679
maybe even one for the last few weeks

1750
01:09:54,790 --> 01:09:53,440
so any questions or comments for me in a

1751
01:09:58,070 --> 01:09:54,800
live chat please put them in

1752
01:09:58,870 --> 01:09:58,080
all caps otherwise uh we'll be wrapping

1753
01:10:01,910 --> 01:09:58,880
things up here

1754
01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:01,920
shortly got a big day ahead of me taking

1755
01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:03,280
care of my two boys

1756
01:10:08,709 --> 01:10:06,880
my wife is going into the office and uh

1757
01:10:10,950 --> 01:10:08,719
today was a fun day for me i went got a

1758
01:10:13,590 --> 01:10:10,960
huge load of firewood that's still in my

1759
01:10:15,590 --> 01:10:13,600
car like my van so i have to unload that

1760
01:10:16,709 --> 01:10:15,600
before i can load up to go to the cabin

1761
01:10:19,030 --> 01:10:16,719
tomorrow

1762
01:10:20,790 --> 01:10:19,040
and yeah i'm going to be uh going to the

1763
01:10:23,430 --> 01:10:20,800
cabin

1764
01:10:23,910 --> 01:10:23,440
genocide you've finished the sun room

1765
01:10:27,669 --> 01:10:23,920
yet

1766
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:27,679
if not how close are you pretty

1767
01:10:32,950 --> 01:10:30,719
i'm i got uh

1768
01:10:34,149 --> 01:10:32,960
i don't know i couldn't tell you maybe

1769
01:10:39,110 --> 01:10:34,159
i'm 50

1770
01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:43,110
uh let's see

1771
01:10:46,950 --> 01:10:45,600
let me uh let me get to my twitter and

1772
01:10:49,510 --> 01:10:46,960
see if i can find the

1773
01:10:49,990 --> 01:10:49,520
pics i just posted some pictures oh yeah

1774
01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:50,000
i can

1775
01:10:54,870 --> 01:10:52,560
there we go all right i'm going to share

1776
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:54,880
screen here

1777
01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:01,830
i'm just going to share my twitter so

1778
01:11:07,750 --> 01:11:03,920
you can see

1779
01:11:29,910 --> 01:11:11,189
that's not let me let me do that

1780
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:47,110
one second friends stand by

1781
01:12:02,470 --> 01:11:54,870
oh that's weird

1782
01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:07,030
looks like the browser crashed

1783
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:11,750
let's see if we can get another one

1784
01:12:33,430 --> 01:12:22,310
see if we can get back to the stream

1785
01:12:33,440 --> 01:13:00,870
not responding

1786
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:06,229
there we go one second

1787
01:13:14,070 --> 01:13:09,280
okay i gotta stop this [\h__\h] there's

1788
01:13:17,669 --> 01:13:16,390
there we go i'm gonna split screen with

1789
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:17,679
myself

1790
01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:19,920
i'm sorry about that okay so how close

1791
01:13:22,630 --> 01:13:20,880
am i i

1792
01:13:24,149 --> 01:13:22,640
have some pictures on my twitter i just

1793
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:24,159
tried to share them and and everything

1794
01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:31,189
uh i'm about halfway there i gotta put

1795
01:13:35,110 --> 01:13:32,719
the roof on it

1796
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:35,120
but first i have to make 12 roof beams

1797
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:36,000
out of trees

1798
01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:37,760
so that's going to take all weekend this

1799
01:13:45,430 --> 01:13:43,669
janette krasenko put out that you're

1800
01:13:46,870 --> 01:13:45,440
going live a few hours in advance yeah

1801
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:46,880
i'm going to start doing that and we're

1802
01:13:48,790 --> 01:13:48,239
going to return to a more normal

1803
01:13:51,669 --> 01:13:48,800
schedule

1804
01:13:52,870 --> 01:13:51,679
of like 10 p.m eastern time monday

1805
01:13:55,910 --> 01:13:52,880
through thursday

1806
01:13:58,149 --> 01:13:55,920
uh well we're going to try that

1807
01:13:59,910 --> 01:13:58,159
we're going to try that uh i think

1808
01:14:01,669 --> 01:13:59,920
that's a good time though even from the

1809
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:01,679
cabin

1810
01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:04,800
yeah um back now though right

1811
01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:06,640
okay so everything's good now yeah

1812
01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:08,080
that's the one thing i'll say is that

1813
01:14:12,310 --> 01:14:09,920
when the software and the browser

1814
01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:12,320
crashes at least i'm able to get

1815
01:14:15,669 --> 01:14:14,560
you know like to get back to it i just

1816
01:14:17,270 --> 01:14:15,679
have to sort of like

1817
01:14:19,189 --> 01:14:17,280
one time i even had to reboot the whole

1818
01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:19,199
computer and then go back and the stream

1819
01:14:22,950 --> 01:14:20,560
was still there waiting for me when i

1820
01:14:24,709 --> 01:14:22,960
went into software i could jump back in

1821
01:14:27,590 --> 01:14:24,719
it's just the screen goes blank while

1822
01:14:29,669 --> 01:14:27,600
that's going on i guess

1823
01:14:31,189 --> 01:14:29,679
which is a strange thing i'm sure we'll

1824
01:14:34,790 --> 01:14:31,199
get some emails

1825
01:14:36,470 --> 01:14:34,800
uh agreed jeanette

1826
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:36,480
i run about trying to figure out if he

1827
01:14:39,510 --> 01:14:38,159
is going to air or not yeah i'm sorry

1828
01:14:41,270 --> 01:14:39,520
about that you know what that's kind of

1829
01:14:42,070 --> 01:14:41,280
disrespectful to the audience so i'm

1830
01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:42,080
going to publish

1831
01:14:46,229 --> 01:14:45,199
a i'm going to make a graphic tomorrow

1832
01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:46,239
with a schedule

1833
01:14:50,870 --> 01:14:47,520
and we're going to start having a

1834
01:14:54,470 --> 01:14:50,880
schedule uh i'm told that's best

1835
01:14:57,270 --> 01:14:54,480
for you know gaining better

1836
01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:57,280
viewership and for gaining subscribers

1837
01:14:58,950 --> 01:14:57,679
we're

1838
01:15:00,870 --> 01:14:58,960
still a few hundred short of

1839
01:15:03,669 --> 01:15:00,880
monetization so

1840
01:15:04,790 --> 01:15:03,679
yeah i'm going to do that and put out

1841
01:15:08,790 --> 01:15:04,800
i'll put out

1842
01:15:11,910 --> 01:15:10,310
one thing i'll say is if i go to the

1843
01:15:12,470 --> 01:15:11,920
trouble of making a graphic with a

1844
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:12,480
schedule

1845
01:15:17,590 --> 01:15:15,040
i'm going to stick to it so i will put

1846
01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:17,600
that out and then everybody will know

1847
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:19,840
yeah janae kriszenko me too bunya well

1848
01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:21,360
it's good to know that people are

1849
01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:23,520
are anxious to see if i'm doing a show

1850
01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:24,719
but you're right i shouldn't be so

1851
01:15:28,550 --> 01:15:26,400
mysterious so that people know there's

1852
01:15:30,709 --> 01:15:28,560
one and can play it appropriately

1853
01:15:32,870 --> 01:15:30,719
to be here because we like to see as

1854
01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:32,880
many of you guys here in the live chat

1855
01:15:38,229 --> 01:15:35,440
as possible

1856
01:15:39,669 --> 01:15:38,239
so any more questions or comments for me

1857
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:39,679
uh

1858
01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:43,920
jonah's like yeah i

1859
01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:46,800
think another man three or four weekends

1860
01:15:49,830 --> 01:15:47,920
and i should be able to

1861
01:15:51,750 --> 01:15:49,840
wrap that whole thing up which would be

1862
01:15:55,830 --> 01:15:51,760
great because it's going to provide

1863
01:16:01,830 --> 01:15:59,510
for the cabin and when

1864
01:16:02,790 --> 01:16:01,840
spring rolls around well earlier than

1865
01:16:04,870 --> 01:16:02,800
spring

1866
01:16:06,149 --> 01:16:04,880
i'll be able to start planting seedlings

1867
01:16:08,950 --> 01:16:06,159
in the greenhouse

1868
01:16:10,149 --> 01:16:08,960
sun room edition for the new garden that

1869
01:16:12,470 --> 01:16:10,159
i'm planting

1870
01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:12,480
haven't had a garden for some time i had

1871
01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:14,400
a huge garden in philadelphia in the

1872
01:16:17,510 --> 01:16:15,600
city

1873
01:16:19,510 --> 01:16:17,520
raised bed garden on the side of our

1874
01:16:23,030 --> 01:16:19,520
house it was a

1875
01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:23,040
pretty massive and uh eventually got too

1876
01:16:25,990 --> 01:16:24,719
busy so one year i just said you know

1877
01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:26,000
what i'm not gonna do the garden this

1878
01:16:30,709 --> 01:16:26,960
year

1879
01:16:32,550 --> 01:16:30,719
um and then i think that turned into two

1880
01:16:34,790 --> 01:16:32,560
in three years actually i haven't had a

1881
01:16:37,430 --> 01:16:34,800
garden for three years now

1882
01:16:39,270 --> 01:16:37,440
i love having a garden it's great to uh

1883
01:16:39,990 --> 01:16:39,280
know where the food you're eating comes

1884
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:40,000
from

1885
01:16:44,630 --> 01:16:43,120
and it's also challenging right like

1886
01:16:47,189 --> 01:16:44,640
let's figure out how to make these

1887
01:16:50,390 --> 01:16:47,199
tomatoes bigger

1888
01:16:53,750 --> 01:16:50,400
you know better soil and uh

1889
01:16:55,030 --> 01:16:53,760
i also like just being outside a lot

1890
01:16:56,870 --> 01:16:55,040
more when you have a garden you've got

1891
01:17:03,990 --> 01:16:56,880
to go out there and work on it so

1892
01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:07,189
okay janet kuzeko says have a wonderful

1893
01:17:11,110 --> 01:17:09,520
night everyone

1894
01:17:12,870 --> 01:17:11,120
yeah so we're going to wrap things up

1895
01:17:15,189 --> 01:17:12,880
here i want to know

1896
01:17:16,310 --> 01:17:15,199
i want you guys to keep in touch with me

1897
01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:16,320
if you are

1898
01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:18,400
going to attempt something like i'm

1899
01:17:21,590 --> 01:17:19,920
attempting which is to not

1900
01:17:24,550 --> 01:17:21,600
use social media except if you

1901
01:17:31,110 --> 01:17:24,560
absolutely have to like take a month off

1902
01:17:34,310 --> 01:17:31,120
see what it does for you see um

1903
01:17:35,750 --> 01:17:34,320
see if your life

1904
01:17:37,910 --> 01:17:35,760
if you feel like your life and your

1905
01:17:40,149 --> 01:17:37,920
clarity improves

1906
01:17:40,950 --> 01:17:40,159
um oh i guess we're going to do the

1907
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:40,960
begging bowl

1908
01:17:43,990 --> 01:17:42,960
so we need your financial support to

1909
01:17:45,910 --> 01:17:44,000
continue the show

1910
01:17:47,910 --> 01:17:45,920
please consider a paypal donation or

1911
01:17:50,870 --> 01:17:47,920
becoming a patreon supporter

1912
01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:50,880
if you want to see our show continue

1913
01:17:54,950 --> 01:17:51,760
there are links

1914
01:17:57,270 --> 01:17:54,960
in the about section here of our channel

1915
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:57,280
where you can do that and i want to

1916
01:18:02,470 --> 01:18:00,000
thank all the patreon supporters and

1917
01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:02,480
people who have given paypal donations i

1918
01:18:06,709 --> 01:18:04,560
truly appreciate the support

1919
01:18:08,229 --> 01:18:06,719
every dollar helps to keep the show

1920
01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:08,239
going

1921
01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:12,880
uh jonathan king any more emails from

1922
01:18:17,189 --> 01:18:13,679
madman

1923
01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:17,199
joram since your last stream

1924
01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:18,880
you got to see that yeah i pulled it

1925
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:20,640
down and i explained earlier in the show

1926
01:18:23,669 --> 01:18:20,880
and

1927
01:18:25,910 --> 01:18:23,679
sort of apologized for that but when

1928
01:18:28,070 --> 01:18:25,920
somebody kind of threatens my family or

1929
01:18:31,110 --> 01:18:28,080
includes my family and their

1930
01:18:33,030 --> 01:18:31,120
email threats i lose my [\h__\h] and i got

1931
01:18:34,709 --> 01:18:33,040
drunk and not just drunk i got angry

1932
01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:34,719
drunk and then i decided it would be a

1933
01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:36,480
good idea to get some things off my

1934
01:18:40,310 --> 01:18:37,360
chest

1935
01:18:40,790 --> 01:18:40,320
but it's never a good idea to stream

1936
01:18:42,390 --> 01:18:40,800
live

1937
01:18:43,990 --> 01:18:42,400
and get some things off your chest if

1938
01:18:46,790 --> 01:18:44,000
you're 10 beers in already

1939
01:18:47,910 --> 01:18:46,800
when you decide to do that not a good

1940
01:18:50,709 --> 01:18:47,920
life decision

1941
01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:50,719
it's never a good decision to do that so

1942
01:18:54,070 --> 01:18:52,480
in my apologies for you having to sit

1943
01:18:55,750 --> 01:18:54,080
through that

1944
01:18:57,189 --> 01:18:55,760
sounds like some people enjoyed it

1945
01:18:59,430 --> 01:18:57,199
though right jonathan king

1946
01:19:01,830 --> 01:18:59,440
like some people like that drunk honest

1947
01:19:05,189 --> 01:19:01,840
steve

1948
01:19:08,070 --> 01:19:05,199
i'm a mean trump by the way sometimes

1949
01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:08,080
usually i'm just uh probably usually

1950
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:09,600
just uh like

1951
01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:11,840
i drink a loan drunk but once a while i

1952
01:19:15,669 --> 01:19:13,840
guess i could be a mean drunk

1953
01:19:21,270 --> 01:19:15,679
if i got a lot on my mind and somebody's

1954
01:19:25,030 --> 01:19:23,270
but i i learned the lesson and i'm gonna

1955
01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:25,040
i'm literally gonna make a sign that

1956
01:19:27,189 --> 01:19:25,440
says

1957
01:19:28,790 --> 01:19:27,199
don't drunk stream and put it on the

1958
01:19:31,110 --> 01:19:28,800
wall right in front of me

1959
01:19:31,990 --> 01:19:31,120
um you know i guess we all have to learn

1960
01:19:34,229 --> 01:19:32,000
that lesson

1961
01:19:35,270 --> 01:19:34,239
i've heard a few other show hosts talk

1962
01:19:36,470 --> 01:19:35,280
about

1963
01:19:38,709 --> 01:19:36,480
of course those show hosts are in

1964
01:19:41,669 --> 01:19:38,719
recovery and i'm not yet

1965
01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:41,679
uh i've heard a few other shows talk

1966
01:19:47,189 --> 01:19:43,040
about

1967
01:19:48,790 --> 01:19:47,199
drinking and streaming and some of them

1968
01:19:51,110 --> 01:19:48,800
really regretted it and some of them

1969
01:19:51,990 --> 01:19:51,120
were like yeah that was crazy that i did

1970
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:52,000
that

1971
01:20:01,189 --> 01:19:59,110
genocide great show stephen thank you

1972
01:20:01,910 --> 01:20:01,199
jonathan king i do not think you did any

1973
01:20:03,350 --> 01:20:01,920
wrong

1974
01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:03,360
yeah but you know what i was going to

1975
01:20:05,590 --> 01:20:05,040
leave it up i left it up for a couple

1976
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:05,600
days

1977
01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:07,360
and then i sort of listened to part of

1978
01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:10,080
it i was like really drunk like swearing

1979
01:20:13,590 --> 01:20:10,400
and

1980
01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:13,600
really not the

1981
01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:17,520
face of the show that i want to

1982
01:20:21,830 --> 01:20:20,159
you know be pushing forward especially

1983
01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:21,840
like imagine if you're new to the

1984
01:20:24,070 --> 01:20:23,360
channel and that was the first thing

1985
01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:24,080
that you saw

1986
01:20:29,030 --> 01:20:26,080
this guy getting drunk screaming and

1987
01:20:30,550 --> 01:20:29,040
yelling and cursing

1988
01:20:36,070 --> 01:20:30,560
i don't know maybe some people like that

1989
01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:39,270
yeah so we're going to wrap things up

1990
01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:40,960
here friends i do want you to keep in

1991
01:20:43,110 --> 01:20:42,239
touch with me and let me know what you

1992
01:20:45,270 --> 01:20:43,120
think about

1993
01:20:46,870 --> 01:20:45,280
my experiment my social media experiment

1994
01:20:49,990 --> 01:20:46,880
which is going to be to severely limit

1995
01:20:51,590 --> 01:20:50,000
my social media usage for 30 days

1996
01:20:55,830 --> 01:20:51,600
but i'm giving myself until next week to

1997
01:21:00,149 --> 01:20:59,590
yeah soaking in every bit of social

1998
01:21:02,629 --> 01:21:00,159
media

1999
01:21:04,470 --> 01:21:02,639
manipulated goodness i can get until the

2000
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:04,480
end of the weekend this coming weekend

2001
01:21:10,070 --> 01:21:05,600
and then i'm gonna try

2002
01:21:13,510 --> 01:21:12,629
oh genocide i don't drink vodka often

2003
01:21:15,189 --> 01:21:13,520
for a reason

2004
01:21:18,310 --> 01:21:15,199
you know what genocide i have a great

2005
01:21:20,070 --> 01:21:18,320
joke i'm allergic to vodka

2006
01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:20,080
do you know why i'm allergic to vodka

2007
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:21,760
genocide

2008
01:21:26,629 --> 01:21:23,360
because every time i drink it it makes

2009
01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:26,639
me break out in handcuffs

2010
01:21:32,149 --> 01:21:30,080
vodka is knockout juice it is like

2011
01:21:33,189 --> 01:21:32,159
you want to have an alcohol blackout i'm

2012
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:33,199
polish so we love

2013
01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:34,800
our vodka you want to have a [\h__\h]

2014
01:21:37,350 --> 01:21:36,480
alcohol blackout see what it's like to

2015
01:21:40,229 --> 01:21:37,360
be a real

2016
01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:40,239
[\h__\h] blackout drunk don't remember

2017
01:21:45,189 --> 01:21:43,040
[\h__\h] alcoholic go get yourself a bottle

2018
01:21:47,030 --> 01:21:45,199
of vodka and drink up

2019
01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:47,040
because eventually your brain is just

2020
01:21:51,750 --> 01:21:49,280
going to shut the [\h__\h] off

2021
01:21:53,030 --> 01:21:51,760
and you're not going to remember [\h__\h]

2022
01:22:00,310 --> 01:21:53,040
about what happened

2023
01:22:03,350 --> 01:22:01,910
yeah friends so we're going to wrap

2024
01:22:06,390 --> 01:22:03,360
things up here and

2025
01:22:07,510 --> 01:22:06,400
we will be back tomorrow night i suppose

2026
01:22:10,870 --> 01:22:07,520
at 10 pm

2027
01:22:12,709 --> 01:22:10,880
started uh

2028
01:22:14,709 --> 01:22:12,719
at 10 30 because my children had a

2029
01:22:16,390 --> 01:22:14,719
20-minute nap and that means there were

2030
01:22:17,669 --> 01:22:16,400
hours off of their bedtime like no

2031
01:22:19,830 --> 01:22:17,679
we're not going to bed yet because we

2032
01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:19,840
had a 20-minute nap and that's

2033
01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:23,199
the reality you're like damn they had it

2034
01:22:26,310 --> 01:22:24,880
once in a while one will fall asleep and

2035
01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:26,320
i'm like no

2036
01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:30,080
wake up because that 10 or 20 minute nap

2037
01:22:35,430 --> 01:22:31,440
that means you're gonna be up for five

2038
01:22:38,629 --> 01:22:36,950
so we're going to be back tomorrow night

2039
01:22:41,669 --> 01:22:38,639
at 10 p.m i forgot my

2040
01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:41,679
spinny design thing there uh we're going

2041
01:22:46,070 --> 01:22:42,239
to be

2042
01:22:50,950 --> 01:22:46,080
back at 10 pm tomorrow night and

2043
01:22:54,149 --> 01:22:52,629
i'm gonna try to go back to at least

2044
01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:54,159
four shows a week i

2045
01:22:57,270 --> 01:22:55,760
the one good thing i'll say about taking

2046
01:22:59,590 --> 01:22:57,280
a break from the show for

2047
01:23:02,390 --> 01:22:59,600
five days at a time is that i started

2048
01:23:04,870 --> 01:23:02,400
making these folders with show ideas and

2049
01:23:06,149 --> 01:23:04,880
you know material for future shows

2050
01:23:08,470 --> 01:23:06,159
that's going really well

2051
01:23:10,310 --> 01:23:08,480
so i think we've got a lot in the

2052
01:23:11,669 --> 01:23:10,320
pipeline i've got plenty of shows

2053
01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:11,679
if i have the time and the energy and

2054
01:23:15,110 --> 01:23:13,760
the dedication to do it i've got to come

2055
01:23:22,390 --> 01:23:15,120
here and water this garden

2056
01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:25,030
so friends until next time i'm stephen

2057
01:23:34,650 --> 01:23:25,920
campion

2058
01:24:25,630 --> 01:23:34,660
good night and god bless all of you

2059
01:24:59,240 --> 01:24:33,210
[Music]

2060
01:25:02,060 --> 01:24:59,250
so

2061
01:25:04,810 --> 01:25:02,070
[Music]